Might buy a Henry Survival Rifle
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Hard to beat, imho.
I love mine.
wish to add, I know of no negatives with any of those others. one of the the neat things about the takedown is that it's a semi.
serguei.zhuravlyov
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Hey guys, buddy of mine is looking for a Henry AR7, where could one be bought from? So far I see Cabela's only.
Thank you,
Serguei
Thank you,
Serguei
wayupnorth
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- Northern Alberta
i was recently looking into picking up a survival 22 to put into my quad when i go hunting.
i live very remote so when we go moose hunting for 5 days we are about as remote as you can get in canada.
but i wanted something that was small and wouldnt rot but would at the same time work when i needed it too.
i was initially looking into the henry because i thought it would take down the smallest and be able to live in the front compartment of my quad the easiest.
i still dont know which one to go with.
but i DID pick up the Little Badger last week and its in the mail right now.
i will probably also pick up the Henry and the Ruger and compare all 3 and clear out the ones that dont work well.
but i went with the Little Badger as the first one after reading a bunch of reviews and watching as many youtube videos as i could find.
while i would prefer the ruger because i love 10/22's i wanted something that went down uber small.
and the little badger has gotten glowing reviews so far.
my back up plan is that if i dont like the little badger i can just give it to my kids to use when they get old enough and then move onto the Henry or Ruger then.
i suspect when the snow falls this winter that i will probably end up getting all of them and comparing them..... long winters lend to a lot of time in the shop!
i live very remote so when we go moose hunting for 5 days we are about as remote as you can get in canada.
but i wanted something that was small and wouldnt rot but would at the same time work when i needed it too.
i was initially looking into the henry because i thought it would take down the smallest and be able to live in the front compartment of my quad the easiest.
i still dont know which one to go with.
but i DID pick up the Little Badger last week and its in the mail right now.
i will probably also pick up the Henry and the Ruger and compare all 3 and clear out the ones that dont work well.
but i went with the Little Badger as the first one after reading a bunch of reviews and watching as many youtube videos as i could find.
while i would prefer the ruger because i love 10/22's i wanted something that went down uber small.
and the little badger has gotten glowing reviews so far.
my back up plan is that if i dont like the little badger i can just give it to my kids to use when they get old enough and then move onto the Henry or Ruger then.
i suspect when the snow falls this winter that i will probably end up getting all of them and comparing them..... long winters lend to a lot of time in the shop!
hamilton0729
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- Northern Ontario (not in Hamilton)
How is the stock on the henry are they fragile and if you do break one can you buy a replacement?
I have had a few take down and survival rifles NOT the same... the Henry Arms AR7 is a survival rifle it is not made for every day use it was made to be put in a back pack and dropped banned around dropped in a river frozen dragged through the mud and sand yet still fire... They do feel cheep but I have smashed my older one on a rock after being outside at -40 for about an hour or more and it did not brake... I love my Henry Arms AR7 I have one that was used and given to me and I just got a new one that is for when the old one finally heads to that grate gun range in the sky. I do have a take down 10/22 that is very good take down but I have had some hick ups in the bush with it and it is more bulky so it stays home unless I am just doing a day pack rabbit hunt... if every pound counts then the AR7 is coming but I am looking at a little badger coming home with me soon.
I'm surprised there aren't more people steering you towards a marlin papoose? They are MUCH more accurate and reliable, and are equally tiny and light. I owned both and the Henry in my opinion felt like someone figured out how to make a toy gun shoot real bullets. NOT a gun I would want my life to depend on for survival.
But I guess it depends on what your idea of "survival" is, and the role a .22 plays in that.
I used to think a small stow away for a BoB was the ticket. But my thoughts on that have changed over the years. A gun that is stowed is useless when you need it really, and for me now I think long term which means number one; It must be built like a 1980's tonka truck. Durable and can stand up to abuse. Secondly it Must be accurate for harvesting small game, and thirdly it must be versatile with regards to ammunition. Ideally able to feed and shoot .22 short, long, and lr.
I've gone from an AR-7 to the papoose, to a CZ Scout, to a marlin model 60, and the next one I'm trying out to see if it fits the role is an older mossberg 146(b).
The reason I'm now onto tube mags is because you can't really lose it. In a real survival situation the prospect of losing or damaging a box mag is not an option for me. And I'm moving away from short barrels because they are louder than I'd like for a survival .22. The extra weight of a longer barrel is worth it to me to have a very quiet report when using slow ammo, and better accuracy with iron sights.
But I guess it depends on what your idea of "survival" is, and the role a .22 plays in that.
I used to think a small stow away for a BoB was the ticket. But my thoughts on that have changed over the years. A gun that is stowed is useless when you need it really, and for me now I think long term which means number one; It must be built like a 1980's tonka truck. Durable and can stand up to abuse. Secondly it Must be accurate for harvesting small game, and thirdly it must be versatile with regards to ammunition. Ideally able to feed and shoot .22 short, long, and lr.
I've gone from an AR-7 to the papoose, to a CZ Scout, to a marlin model 60, and the next one I'm trying out to see if it fits the role is an older mossberg 146(b).
The reason I'm now onto tube mags is because you can't really lose it. In a real survival situation the prospect of losing or damaging a box mag is not an option for me. And I'm moving away from short barrels because they are louder than I'd like for a survival .22. The extra weight of a longer barrel is worth it to me to have a very quiet report when using slow ammo, and better accuracy with iron sights.
.22 short is not legal in a lot of countries now if it is to fire two .22 formats is should be .22 LR and .22 WMR there is one for Remington or Savage to do... make a cross caliber auto load takedown/survival rifle that can float and stay under 4 lbs.
.22lr and .22mag are two different bullet diameters, you'd need two separate barrels. And what Countries have banned .22 shorts? Not here... Not the States... And you can buy .22lr ammo that is loaded to darn near the same velocity as a .22mag, give or take a couple dozen ft/lbs of energy.
Never mind that a .22mag is sort of redundant in my eyes for all practical purposes related to survival. .22lr for food, .223, 762x39, 12 gauge, 9mm, 45... Those are much better defensive calibers.
And honestly, why does it have to float and stay under 4 pounds? Those are a couple questions I always asked myself when I owned the AR-7 and papoose, but could never think of an honest realistic answer.
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Whats the point of that? There is VERY little you can do with a .22WMR that you cant do with a .22lr. Also your dream gun would have to be double barrel or have interchangable barrels, a .22lr is .222 and a WMR is .224, you can't shoot both rounds out of the same barrel.
Im still curious to know which countries you claim to have banned .22 shorts also... I don't know where you are getting this from.
You can't buy them in the UK I am told and if the Liberals get in to majority power here in Canada Kiss them good bye... I don't think they are in Australia either other parts of Europe you will be hard press to find them. AND YES there would be two different Barrels... Make it a modular system set up the right way it could be made to fire a lot of different calibers.
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I have plotted out a new rear sight idea for the ar7 that I think will work, when I get to a lazier cutter to plot it out I will post my results AR7s are not the world's best I will never say that but for a 2.5 lbs. survival rifle that can kill a rabbit at 50 yards it will do the job with; mud, swamp, snow, ice, sand or drowned in water the Henry Arms AR7 will shoot... are there better rifles? Yes, Are there ones far less? Yes. It is a middle of the road ultra light pack rifle. A few companies have made an AR7, the Henry Arms AR7 is the best
Pros: They are almost completely rust proof, they float, I have no problems with hitting things with them, they are very hardy for what they are, my old one will not shoot any federal and it will complain about Remington's Bucket of bullets and the new one will shoot anything, the Magazines load very smoothly and slick.
Cons: The sights are hard for the average user to get used to, most rifles will not shoot hallow points and a lot of them don't like cheapo ammo at all. the stock is hard for some to get used to. The front sight is a thumb drift so you have to check the drifting before you use it. There have been times that I have dropped the magazine as the mag drop is part of the trigger guard.
Pros: They are almost completely rust proof, they float, I have no problems with hitting things with them, they are very hardy for what they are, my old one will not shoot any federal and it will complain about Remington's Bucket of bullets and the new one will shoot anything, the Magazines load very smoothly and slick.
Cons: The sights are hard for the average user to get used to, most rifles will not shoot hallow points and a lot of them don't like cheapo ammo at all. the stock is hard for some to get used to. The front sight is a thumb drift so you have to check the drifting before you use it. There have been times that I have dropped the magazine as the mag drop is part of the trigger guard.
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Every time I have money for a Little badger you can't find a one anywhere at all... In my mind I feel a little cramped in the .22 department, but I have always liked them from the time I first held one... They are a revamp of a bicycle gun and in concept they are so simple they almost can't go wrong at all with them.
My step-father still has the armalite AR-7 which was the original version, and it is a neat gun, way nicer than the newer Henry I had. Feeds everything and is very accurate.
But I'd be doubtful if they worked after sand, mud, swamp , snow, ice as you claim. Mine was a jam-o-matic at the best of times. They are not mini AK's...
But I'd be doubtful if they worked after sand, mud, swamp , snow, ice as you claim. Mine was a jam-o-matic at the best of times. They are not mini AK's...
you may have to manually cycle the rifle but they will go bang, there is a guy that posted a you tube video about it and I have froze the heck out of mine... I was told the first Armalite AR-7 had their hick ups but to buy one if you find one for sale.
One of the Girls at work has the Survival Arms AR=7 and loves it...
The Henry Arms AR-7 you want is the new one with the rail scope mount, the orange inside with the slots for two magazines and the steel indexing pin not the inclusive nub.
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