live4therut
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Yes you are absolutely right, What literature have you sourced on marksmanship?
NM M1A ready for distance....
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I intend to reload with 155 and 167 Scenars and maybe see what the Lapua Lockbase 170 gr ( factory ammo from Lapua is the most accurate i shot from my Nemesis) produce, the Berger and Mk will be giving it a try... JP.
RememberTheSomme
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It's in several of my books but the best information is from "The complete book of US Sniping" by Peter R Senich published 1988, so not up to date for now, but good for the M-14's previous life as the "Sniper's Baby". At the time of printing(1988), it was still the Tool of the trade for the US Army, still hadn't been replaced by the bolt gun,. A whole chapter to the M-14 alone, with lots of great combat photos.
RememberTheSomme
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I intend to reload with 155 and 167 Scenars and maybe see what the Lapua Lockbase 170 gr ( factory ammo from Lapua is the most accurate i shot from my Nemesis) produce, the Berger and Mk will be giving it a try... JP.
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Those 155's are deadly in a 1/12" twist standard barrel. The first 200 rounds through my Chincom were these. Would the Scenar-L in 175 grains be a good bullet for the 800 meter test? Your barrel 1/11"??
1/11 is right, i will be trying those MK 175 but the Lapua 170 gr Lockbase are new to me and i am really impress by them... 1/10 barrel of my Nemesis is at is best with the 155 Scenars ( pet load)... Will keep you posted... JP.
RememberTheSomme
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Ok I didn't even realize there was a 170
, I thought you misquoted the 175 lol. Match ammo is definitely not my forte.
RememberTheSomme
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H2O I haven't really followed the re emergence of the M-14 platform for Afghanistan and Iraq, but I'm feeling it is for the DMR role, and this is much like Soviet sniper philosophy from the Cold War. Semi-Auto, scope sighted marksman,... deployed throughout infantry companies and platoon's.
The US counterpart however,... concentrated on Sniping as a separate entity acting in pairs as Scout/Snipers, to be deployed by unit commanders down to the platoon level, but these sniper's were true long range marksman, not merely DMR's. The Max effective range for a Soviet Dragunov equipped DMR sniper, was only the good starting ranges where a US sniper would like to engage due to his superior marksmanship ability and his equipment and because distance and stealth was his best protection while harassing superior numbers.
The M-14/XM21 was definitely wrung out in Vietnam and later years. Better optics now and ballistic computation would stretch it even a little further maybe, but the 762 has limitations. The Leatherwood scope was a leap forward in its day, but the magnifications offered throughout the ballistic come-ups during bracketing the target was quick, but is inferior to today's sniping optics and ballistic compensation.
I too will try to push my SAI NM -out to about 600 yards anyway - this Spring. Have a CASM mount and will put a NF NXS on top. Figure 41.5 of 4895 pushing a 168g SMK is the way to go but the question is 'what brass to use ?" This platform is hard on brass and I don't want to really kill my new Lapua in 4 reloads but don't want Federal (too soft) so maybe it has to be Winchester. RTS, L4TR or other '14 reloaders - any ideas ?
I did finalized my scope business on my NM M1A, went with a S&B 3X12X50 Klassik FFP L7 reticle... This rifle desserve to get top glass as the accuracy is there so this should be the final set up for it, when snow go away i will try it at various distance up to 800 metres, there i will be able to assess the real potential of my NM... JP.[/URL][/IMG]
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I will go as far my rifle+scope+ammo will take me, this year, i am opening up at our private range some extra stations from 1200 to 1500 metres ( by backing up the start), when i lose the 24X24 paper, that gonna be it, this will be a fun summer with those new distances... JP.
Rocket Surgery
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My scope set at 9x can shoot well at 100yards, but after 300 the crosshairs just cover up my 8x11 sheet completely. I'm thinking an m305 shooting 1.5-2 inches at 100y with 10x fixed scope should reliably hit 16x16 plates/gongs out to 400y easily. Should be able to get twice those results if you post a lot on the internet.
