John please don't leave.

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If everyone just wants to see themselves in print, why don't we go back to bashing Badger Arms or Lever Arms instead of a forum sponsor. At least Badger did something to get kicked off the forum. I have had no problems dealing with Marstar. Just lucky I guess.
 
All the whiners should be kicked off this forum and let the MEN talk about guns. The whiners can start their own forum and talk about their hurt feelings. John and the other sponsors should not even respond on these forums about anything not gun related.
 
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People say he doesn't have the best customer service. That may be true, I have no idea? I have never dealt with them. But if some of the people posting the negative stuff on here were my customers I would tell them to F-off too. If you act like a #### you should get treated like one, even if you're the customer. There is voicing your displeasure with a product or purchase and there is just strait up attacking a business. There have been a few threads were it just seems people just want to attack them.

There has become a mob mentality on this site that is just pathetic. Most of whom should go out to the range and enjoy doing some shooting or just get out and actually talk to a person face to face instead of #####ing on the internet

If they decide to stay they should just go deleting or locking every thread with a compliant or negative comment like other business forums. People ##### about over moderation but look what happens when you let it go. It turns into a gong show
 
If it up to this guy (John) to continue or stop all this B.S. and if he normal person without any deviations and any sado- mazo trends , he wold do any to stop all tns B .S.
But , seems he just enjoy all this ..
So , please , STOP your comments and let this person to go his way ...
 
frierags said:
If everyone just wants to see themselves in print, why don't we go back to bashing Badger Arms or Lever Arms instead of a forum sponsor. At least Badger did something to get kicked off the forum. I have had no problems dealing with Marstar. Just lucky I guess.
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I hate this "just because there a forum sponsor" they can do no wrong crap....
 
tjsudbury said:
Time after time I have seen some poor semi-computer illiterate schmuck who is at his wits end start a thread trying to get something, anything at all, out of someone at Marstar about an order or warranty issue. And time after time I have seen then treated with contempt. Decided a long time ago that I would never buy anything from them. I would sooner pay more from someone else, or do without.
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Ironically everyone that picks a side, and verbalizes it, exacerbates the issue unnecessarily, even those who think they are "helping"....perhaps even some of those people especially. Customer service is an odd gig where you can't ever really say what you're thinking personally at the time. One of those things I would hire specifically for, or outsource.
 
tjsudbury said:
Time after time I have seen some poor semi-computer illiterate schmuck who is at his wits end start a thread trying to get something, anything at all, out of someone at Marstar about an order or warranty issue. And time after time I have seen then treated with contempt.
Decided a long time ago that I would never buy anything from them. I would sooner pay more from someone else, or do without.
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Sorry , what does the "schmuck" meam ? I am not from Israil and need to ask you from translation ...
 
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In this case, it means just some poor guy that's looking for help, and isn't getting any.
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You better read it again. He was getting help. Its people like him that are always victims because they are whiny little #####es. This forum is for MEN TO TALK ABOUT GUNS. All others can go to www.somebodyhurtmyfeelings.com to get their hand held by fellow little #####es and quit using this forum to try and shame a vendor publicly into giving him something for free.
 
I have never dealt with John personally but I did buy a $20 mauser part described as very good condition only to receive a rusty one that looked like it was at the bottom of a sewer pipe. I won't go into detail here except to say I am not buying from marstar again.

I am sorry to see John leave the forum but if he wishes to, that is his choice.
 
dogbreath said:
You better read it again. He was getting help. Its people like him that are always victims because they are whiny little #####es. This forum is for MEN TO TALK ABOUT GUNS. All others can go to www.somebodyhurtmyfeelings.com to get their hand held by fellow little #####es and quit using this forum to try and shame a vendor publicly into giving him something for free.
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It wasn't him specifically that I was speaking about, but the many that came before him. Read my first post for context
 
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dogbreath said:
You better read it again. He was getting help. Its people like him that are always victims because they are whiny little #####es. This forum is for MEN TO TALK ABOUT GUNS. All others can go to www.somebodyhurtmyfeelings.com to get their hand held by fellow little #####es and quit using this forum to try and shame a vendor publicly into giving him something for free.
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dogbreath said:
you better read it again. He was getting help. Its people like him that are always victims because they are whiny little #####es. This forum is for men to talk about guns. All others can go to www.somebodyhurtmyfeelings.com to get their hand held by fellow little #####es and quit using this forum to try and shame a vendor publicly into giving him something for free.
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:rey2::bsFlag: With words like that someone's feeling will get hurt. Or you'll get banned, let's wait and see :popCorn:
 
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As per the rules of his section of the forum

"The business forums are the private forums of the paid business members. When you enter into their forums, you should see yourself as entering into their virtual store fronts. Therefore, it is a reasonable to behave in the same manner and observe the same etiquette as if you are meeting the store staff and owners in person. If you are rude or attempt to disrupt their business in their own forums or storefronts, they have the right to remove your postings and presence, and ask you not to post in their forums(or enter their storefronts) again. If you don’t cease and desist after you have been asked to stop by the store owner, that will be consider as harassment. If you do not agree with their prices, move along. The business forum is NOT the place you will use the prices of other businesses to attempt to obtain price match, or to advertise prices and availability of businesses other than the owner of that particular business forum.




Furthermore, if you have an issue with a business member, it is a common practice to make an attempt to resolve the issue with the business member privately. ( A reasonable person will not enter a store and scream at the top of him lung to gather everyone's attention and make a scene, will he?) If you have not been able to resolve this issue and made a posting in the forum, the issue could only be posted once. If a member has a particular issue with a business member and the issue is being purposely and repeatedly posted in the business member's forum, the business member can ask you to stop. If it continues, it will be treated as harassment and the moderator may step in and apply forum rules.




This policy is part of the forum rules. All forum rules will be enforced."


He could delete a thread he doesn't like. But then again...
 
Yes, he can delete the thread but he cant ban you from his forum , like he can if he had a store .

hamermill said:
As per the rules of his section of the forum

"The business forums are the private forums of the paid business members. When you enter into their forums, you should see yourself as entering into their virtual store fronts. Therefore, it is a reasonable to behave in the same manner and observe the same etiquette as if you are meeting the store staff and owners in person. If you are rude or attempt to disrupt their business in their own forums or storefronts, they have the right to remove your postings and presence, and ask you not to post in their forums(or enter their storefronts) again. If you don’t cease and desist after you have been asked to stop by the store owner, that will be consider as harassment. If you do not agree with their prices, move along. The business forum is NOT the place you will use the prices of other businesses to attempt to obtain price match, or to advertise prices and availability of businesses other than the owner of that particular business forum.




Furthermore, if you have an issue with a business member, it is a common practice to make an attempt to resolve the issue with the business member privately. ( A reasonable person will not enter a store and scream at the top of him lung to gather everyone's attention and make a scene, will he?) If you have not been able to resolve this issue and made a posting in the forum, the issue could only be posted once. If a member has a particular issue with a business member and the issue is being purposely and repeatedly posted in the business member's forum, the business member can ask you to stop. If it continues, it will be treated as harassment and the moderator may step in and apply forum rules.




This policy is part of the forum rules. All forum rules will be enforced."


He could delete a thread he doesn't like. But then again...
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