Butler Creek 25/22 clips

I have three of the steel lips Butler Creek mags, two worked great from day one, but one of them the follower sticks in the down position when loaded with more than about 15 or 20 rounds, then it works fine. Pretty sure there's just a bit of leftover mold flashing in the one that sticks. A few other people I know have have had the same or better luck as me with them.
Kristian
 
ive had similar issues with my bc clipmags and found that loading only 22 rounds helps relieve the issue...also my cousin reports he found tiny protrusions on the (new)steel lips when he compared them to the lips of the original ruger product,and once he filed/sanded them off they fed as well as any other clipmags out there...
 
Pantharen said:
I bought a new Butler Creek 25/22 clip yesterday. I put 25 rounds in in with a speed loader. and my first round jammed, the new clip wont cycle worth a damn.
I have an old used clip that came with the gun, and it works beautiful, cycles every round wihtout issue. The new clip however wont, every few rounds, I'll get 3 or 4 jams in a row.

is this a problem with the clip, or is it just a "new clip" issue?
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Try a magazine. Clips don't work with the Hot Lips loader.
 
I tested 2 mags today. Fed OK when loaded at 20, jamomatic when fully loaded.. Will give the lips a light brush with sandpaper and also try to put some rds through all 5 mags. Need'em to function reliably filled to capacity.
 
I have and use over 100 BC 25 round mags and 4 BC loaders. Wouldn't want the barrels to cool down in the gopher patch!

The loaders load steel and hot lips, even factory mags. You can't just crank on them, you have to feel what you're doing to be efficient.

There is nothing wrong with the plastic lipped mags in regards to loading with a loader and function in a gun, they just wear out at the lips. Takes a lot to wear one out and if you run several mags you probably never will.

The only ones that give me problems are the BC clear steel lipped mags. Never have problems with the smoked ones for some reason. If you go to the stickies in the rimfire section you can see a few areas that can be cleaned up to improve them.

Also never buy a stagger stacked mag, they all suck. I've tried most of the mags and have never had a stagger stacked one work.

The single stack shooters ridge mags are ok too if you want to try something different.

Also I never had ammo make a difference in any mags, just function in guns. With the exception of 1 pair of clear steel lipped mags either can't or can only use stingers (can't remember but it's jiffied on them)

Do some reading in the rimfire stickies and learn!

Hope that helps!
 
I found with my BC Steel Lips mags, they were making contact with the bottom of the bolt. You can test this in yours by inserting an empty mag. While pulling back on the bottom edge of the mag, try manually cycling the bolt. On mine, I was noticing that the bolt would slow down and/or get stuck until I let go of the bottom of the mag or wiggled it a bit. Rather than file down the steel lips on the mag, I sanded and polished the bottom of my bolt - especially the two grooves where the mag lips were making contact. Works great now. The only time I have problems is if I used some ammo that has a lot of wax like the 525 bulk Blazer ammo. The bullets just get all jammed up and the mag springs aren't strong enough to push up a full load. I used to have to wipe down that bulk ammo to remove the excess wax. Or just use them in the the stock 10 round mags.
 
VanMan said:
I found with my BC Steel Lips mags, they were making contact with the bottom of the bolt. You can test this in yours by inserting an empty mag. While pulling back on the bottom edge of the mag, try manually cycling the bolt. On mine, I was noticing that the bolt would slow down and/or get stuck until I let go of the bottom of the mag or wiggled it a bit. Rather than file down the steel lips on the mag, I sanded and polished the bottom of my bolt - especially the two grooves where the mag lips were making contact. Works great now. The only time I have problems is if I used some ammo that has a lot of wax like the 525 bulk Blazer ammo. The bullets just get all jammed up and the mag springs aren't strong enough to push up a full load. I used to have to wipe down that bulk ammo to remove the excess wax. Or just use them in the the stock 10 round mags.
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So instead of modifying the $25 piece of plastic mag you went ahead and modified the $250 rifle, brilliant.
 
Chem said:
So instead of modifying the $25 piece of plastic mag you went ahead and modified the $250 rifle, brilliant.
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Chem, I respect your right to your opinion, and yes the solution you did of filing down the lips on your 6 mags would definitely work too.

A few clarifications though:
  1. the bolt is the part I described modifying. It's only ~$40 to buy a new one if you mess it up. Maybe ~$30 on the EE.
  2. this was done on my SR-22, as the same mags worked reasonably well on my 10/22 TD, so I tinkered with a ~$600 rifle:).
  3. My thoughts are that the 10/22's are great, but any manufacturer produces parts and assemblies to production tolerances. This is why my 5 BC Steel Lips mags worked ok on one of my 10/22's and not so well on the other one. You can see from the pic below that the stock 10/22 bolt is a pretty typical production part. Some rough as cast surfaces, visible machining and witness marks.
  4. polishing the bolt is a fairly well known trick/tip for a lot of the 10/22 enthusiasts. While I freely admit that perhaps polishing the bottom of the bolt is not as well known. Here is a great thread that talks to bolt polishing and other tips and tricks for our 10/22's http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/foru...s-and-tricks-already)?highlight=tricks+tricks there used to be a much bigger Tips and Tricks thread, but I can't seem to find it now.
  5. I have tinkered with my 10/22's - installing trigger tuneup kits, polishing receivers, and applying a lot of other tips and tricks. If you are going to do them, research them well and apply them one at a time. I kind of like tracking the gradual improvement of my rifle, and I can more accurately gauge what works for me and what doesn't.

Here's a pic of the bottom of one of my 10/22 bolts. You can see the areas I polished, and the stock as-cast areas I sanded and polished. I did some light passes with 400 grit wet/dry sandpaper to knock off the high spots, and then further smoothed down with 600 grit. A final polish was probably not necessary, but I was polishing the whole bolt anyhow.

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I dont normally reactivate dead threads.. but seeing as I am the OP..

I found the best way to fix the BC Magazine problem... Replaced the Ruger with a 1940's Cooey Sureshot repeater & a 1954 Cooey Ranger 60 Repeater. They eat anything, never jam, never misfire, never have feed issues and they're 100x more accurate than any semi auto :D :D
 
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