Can't decide between .500 Jeffery and .505 Gibbs for moose

Why not? said:
Yes, I know....that is always a tough one! ;)

Ted
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Lol....Casul would have the answer...if he were still posting. He'd probably suggest the .50-110 in a Ruger No.1 or the good old standby the .510 Wells. I remember, way back in CGN's infancy, his awesome success on Bison with the 570gr XLC and the .50-110 WCF. I also picked up a neat modified P17 for him at an auction once - it was a .577 REWA.


Boomer said:
I believe you meant that the Jeffery has a rebated rim, rather than being rimless. When sizing up both cartridges side-by-side, the .505 Gibbs seems to have the advantage in neck length and powder capacity, but the factory doesn't load it as hot as the Jeffery's 525 @ 2400, never mind its potential 570 @ 2500. Anyone who shoots one of these cartridges had better be a handloader, or have very deep pockets. But should he have the desire, he could load the .505 Gibbs to its full potential. Another plus for the .500 Jeffery is that it uses the more common .510" diameter bullets. Either way, you should be looking for a good bullet mold and shoot lots of cast loads. I believe finding a stock that could withstand the recoil of either of these cartridges loaded to their full potential, might be challenging.
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Yes, I had a "long" day at work and had ravaged a good portion of a bottle of Forty Creek by the time I wrote that post (actually, by the time I started this thread). :(

c-fbmi said:
Can I get either one of those calibers in a lever gun? My granddad hunted with a levergun and my daddy hunted with a levergun and everybody knows that the levergun is the best brush gun in the eastern woods. So I was just wondering if I could get one of them moose calibers in a good levergun in case I decide to hunt moose. You think I could get it in a Mossberg or maybe I have to step up to a Rossi?
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I actually laughed when I read your post - a nice dainty, narrow stocked lever action with a steel crescent butt plate....good times.
 
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Clearly the 500 Jeffery Improved is the way to go.

Was that Casual that shot the bison and the bullet went skipping across a frozen lake and he found the bullet?
 
hoytcanon said:
Nope, sorry... not for you. You need a certain "Duke-like" manly swagger to carry a big bore lever gun... no self respecting salesman of firearms will sell one to a insipid, baby-faced, pony-tailed,
jumpsuit/cardigan/loafer wearing individual....



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Not even a Mossberg or a Rossi..........?:(:( What if I tell him I'm going to put a pink flip flop recoil pad on it ?
 
c-fbmi said:
Not even a Mossberg or a Rossi..........?:(:( What if I tell him I'm going to put a pink flip flop recoil pad on it ?
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Well..... if the pink flip-flop is "curved" maybe we'll see what we can do... hard cast only... promise?
 
It looks too fat for a Yukon grayling. Sure looks like a fat BC fish and that nice clear stream, looks like the little river across the lake from Atlin. I've caught them 18 inches long there.
 
1899 said:
Wow Ted - that is a fantastic Grayling! Do you use light spinning tackle?
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H4831 said:
It looks too fat for a Yukon grayling. Sure looks like a fat BC fish and that nice clear stream, looks like the little river across the lake from Atlin. I've caught them 18 inches long there.
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Ultralight outfit with 4# test, about a hundred miles down the Big Salmon River, very heavy 20 inch fish.



c-fbmi said:
Ted, you're just showing off..............what has a giant grayling got to do with a lever action 505 Gibs with a pink curved flip flop recoil pad?:p:p .........OH I get it now, you got that lunker with your 500 Jefferys!!
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The lure was pink, and Jeffrey was with me. :D
Ted
 
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Why not? said:
Ultralight outfit with 4# test, about a hundred miles down the Big Salmon River, very heavy 20 inch fish.

The lure was pink, and Jeffrey was with me. :D
Ted
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That sounds like lots of fun. I once caught a really big bull trout on a very similar setup - ultralight rod and reel with 4lb test and a Blue Fox spinner.
 
Nice grayling, but for shmucks that bean moose on a regular basis with .30-30's, why go through the effort of dragging an overly pricey & heavy elephant class gun through the bush to poke a large deer with?

Effin' .22 mags have done the job just fine for folks that know the score.:bangHead:
 
SHELL SHUCKER said:
Nice grayling, but for shmucks that bean moose on a regular basis with .30-30's, why go through the effort of dragging an overly pricey & heavy elephant class gun through the bush to poke a large deer with?

Effin' .22 mags have done the job just fine for folks that know the score.:bangHead:
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Yah, but that was the old fashioned moose that a 30-30 would kill.
A 30-30 bonces right off the tough armour plate they have now.
It's that dang global warming that did it.
 
Instead of those big boomers, why not something elegant, that also will give you a quick follow up shot? There are several beautiful large caliber double rifles or double rifle drillings for sale. You won't be under gunned.
 
Gun5tuff said:
Instead of those big boomers, why not something elegant, that also will give you a quick follow up shot? There are several beautiful large caliber double rifles or double rifle drillings for sale. You won't be under gunned.
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If you have to ask you won't understand.

It's a Fudd thing.
 
Why not? said:
It would have been even bigger if I had not kept my elbows are at my sides.

Thankfully. I weigh 40 pounds less today than when that picture was taken. It will look really huge if I go back there and catch it again! :rockOn:

Ted
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I like to stand in front of the fish... when you see the pectoral fin sticking out to the left and the adipose fin sticking out to the right, you know its a good one! ;)
 
Gun5tuff said:
Instead of those big boomers, why not something elegant, that also will give you a quick follow up shot? There are several beautiful large caliber double rifles or double rifle drillings for sale. You won't be under gunned.
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I would like to take long range shots +300 yards and doubles are not good for that.




Edit - after giving it some thought, I've decided you may be onto something. So the next question is, could you mount a muzzle brake system on a SxS rifle? I think it would be hard to mount a single brake on each barrel, but maybe one really large one that would cover both barrels. Unfortunately due to how big that would have to be, I am sure it would upset the balance of the rifle. How about a rectangular cross-section shaped muzzle brake? That would look sleek. The critical thing would be threading the barrel - can you imagine how stupid it would look if this rectangular muzzle brake was even a little ####-eyed?

I should send this idea to Mossberg - it would be their golden opportunity to get into the double rifle market.
 
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