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No you can't just swap them. New barrels have to be fitted . In the states you can send rifles to them and they will fit a new barrel depending on date of manufacture. Never heard of anybody else fitting one. Have seen them rebarreled by doing the stub deal.
 
Personally, I'd stick it together and see if it looked like it fit.

If it seats flush at the breech face, then check to see if the locking lug is engaged same as the original barrel.

Got go-nogo gages? Check with them.

Then snap a primer or two to confirm that the firing pin aligns correctly.

For all that the factory want them back for fitting, I think it's lawyer driven more than anything.These are pretty simple mechanisms, and a fella that works slow and thinks should have no problems, IMO.

If the barrel does not fit, then it starts to get more complicated, eh?

And I put this out as conversation , not as a statement of my experience with them. I have not done this, but I have disassembled a couple of them over the years and a couple similarly built guns. Worst case I see is coming up with a barrel that is too short, and leaves a gap at the breech face. Hard to adjust for that.

Cheers
Trev
 
Best place to poke around for H&R info is Graybeard Outdoors. Would have posted it with my original post, but couldn't remember the name.
 
Must be fitted at the factory. Cannot be a pre-Marlin/Remington or discontinued rifles either.
This is the Canadian repair depot for H&R.
The Gravel Agency
1530 Provinciale Street
Quebec, Qc, G1N 4A2
Phone #: 866-662-4869
Fax #: 418-682-3343
 
sunray said:
Must be fitted at the factory. Cannot be a pre-Marlin/Remington or discontinued rifles either.
This is the Canadian repair depot for H&R.
The Gravel Agency
1530 Provinciale Street
Quebec, Qc, G1N 4A2
Phone #: 866-662-4869
Fax #: 418-682-3343
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Hogwash
 
Deerdr said:
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That's kind of chicken#### to go around asking for information then deleting the question. How is anyone supposed to find out what the answers are, or, in this case, what the actual conversation was actually about, if you do that.

Seriously. Lame.

And for the benefit of any that come along later, it was whether the H&R single shot barrels interchange.

Cheers
Trev
 
I'm very sorry for removing Question. When someone said " it can't be done" I thought it was a dumb question and would remove it. And I was asking the question for a fellow CGN guy who asked for help Respectfully Jim
 
trevj said:
That's kind of chicken#### to go around asking for information then deleting the question. How is anyone supposed to find out what the answers are, or, in this case, what the actual conversation was actually about, if you do that.

Seriously. Lame.

And for the benefit of any that come along later, it was whether the H&R single shot barrels interchange.

Cheers
Trev
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So you're slamming the OP for asking to remove his own thread??

This coming from a guy soliciting advice on fitting barrels to a gun without having any knowledge how to do so? You run with your go-nogo gauges and when you blow your own face off post a pic for all to see how your great job of barrel fitting worked out!!

If anything it is your post offering this kind of "maybe it will work advice" that should be removed......Let me fix it for you :

trevj said:
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Personally, I'd stick it together and see if it looked like it fit.

If it seats flush at the breech face, then check to see if the locking lug is engaged same as the original barrel.

Got go-nogo gages? Check with them.

Then snap a primer or two to confirm that the firing pin aligns correctly.

For all that the factory want them back for fitting, I think it's lawyer driven more than anything.These are pretty simple mechanisms, and a fella that works slow and thinks should have no problems, IMO.

If the barrel does not fit, then it starts to get more complicated, eh?

LEGAL DISCLAIMER

And I put this out as conversation , not as a statement of my experience with them. I have not done this, but I have disassembled a couple of them over the years and a couple similarly built guns. Worst case I see is coming up with a barrel that is too short, and leaves a gap at the breech face. Hard to adjust for that.

Cheers
Trev
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Yeah I'm offering advice. I don't need to act like a Lawyer, because I'm not one.

They are simple devices. There are about three different places where fit is reasonably important, and the only two a fella can reasonably do anything about are if the locking lug is not seating in deep enough, and if the chamber is too short rather than too long. Putting metal on either place is difficult at best, and an unreasonable effort to put in on a rifle worth less than the hours it would take.
Adding metal to the breech face is tough, you need to be a pretty decent lathe hand to accurately take material off and come out with a good fit.

I'll leave my info for the consumption of those able to think for themselves.

And having the post erased is also removing MY posts, which I put here for all to consider and comment upon, not just for the OP to use exclusively. So yeah. I'm smlamming the OP for a chicken#### move. If every guy had to ask the same question each time, because the guy before that say, asked if you could shoot into space, erased his tracks, it'd get pretty (more) repetitive.

The OP is not the only person affected and the OP should not be deciding what happens to MY posts. :)

Don't like that, too bad. Don't like my advice, provide better.

Cheers
Trev
 
trevj said:
Yeah I'm offering advice. I don't need to act like a Lawyer, because I'm not one.

They are simple devices. There are about three different places where fit is reasonably important, and the only two a fella can reasonably do anything about are if the locking lug is not seating in deep enough, and if the chamber is too short rather than too long. Putting metal on either place is difficult at best, and an unreasonable effort to put in on a rifle worth less than the hours it would take.
Adding metal to the breech face is tough, you need to be a pretty decent lathe hand to accurately take material off and come out with a good fit.

I'll leave my info for the consumption of those able to think for themselves.

And having the post erased is also removing MY posts, which I put here for all to consider and comment upon, not just for the OP to use exclusively. So yeah. I'm smlamming the OP for a chicken#### move. If every guy had to ask the same question each time, because the guy before that say, asked if you could shoot into space, erased his tracks, it'd get pretty (more) repetitive.

The OP is not the only person affected and the OP should not be deciding what happens to MY posts. :)

Don't like that, too bad. Don't like my advice, provide better.

Cheers
Trev
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Really?You are concerned about your posts being removed? Like having a post removed is so awful unless there is a magic number you are trying to achieve? You need another hobby besides posting obviously.....

Hey Doc, maybe you better put your question back up so this site doesn't become so repetitive with the same question.......:bump:
 
the spank said:
Really?You are concerned about your posts being removed? Like having a post removed is so awful unless there is a magic number you are trying to achieve? You need another hobby besides posting obviously.....

Hey Doc, maybe you better put your question back up so this site doesn't become so repetitive with the same question.......:bump:
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Yeah, really. Here's why. A guy asks a question, I give it due consideration, and take the time to type an answer. Then the guy erases the question, leaving the following answers, comments and suggestions hanging with no context whatsoever. Next guy comes along, reads the post, it's a soup sandwich of seemingly random gibberish with no connections. It devalues the usefulness of the Forum as a information source, overall.

If it was about post counts, I would have never signed up for access to the OT section. And honestly, for better or worse, yeah, I would rather see the question put back up. It might be useful to the next guy down the line that is looking (and for whom the search engine actually works).

So, this one turned in to a bit of a train wreck. Whatever. Never happened before on a Forum, you figure? It still used to provide both context and some information worth considering. Heck, even sunray, he of the rarely useful sound-bite posts, at least managed to provide the name and address of where the company wants the gun to go for such ministrations. Y'all didn't think that Gravel was staffed by Doctorate level Engineers did ya?

I've been on a couple Forums where it soon became obvious that there were a few guys that were habitually going around and removing their own posts because the Forum software allowed it. It made a hash out of any old threads, because the information was only half there. It was really difficult to piece together the data I was looking for, and at least one of the guys was doing so, to keep his post count down in the single digits, so that he could pull the "I'm new to this, would you give me a deal" line, whenever someone started discussing something he was interested in buying. He, was downright dishonest in the way he presented himself, and if you were not following that Forum for long enough to know that he had posted nearly daily, you would maybe buy his BS line.

I am on another site where the software is set so that after a time period, you cannot edit your own posts, let alone remove them. 24 hours, iirc, is the time line. Fair enough, I figure.

So.... your mileage may vary, but that's my opinion on the matter.

The great thing about modern manufacturing is that the capabilities of the machine tools used have reduced to a great extent, the need to hand fit each part so that they will work. Why would these simple firearms be any different. The lawyerese gibberish is all about reducing the risk to the Company, as far as both liability and their image is concerned. If you modify anything, against the express instructions of the Company, you are essentially being told you are on your own, no? Ford wants you to only deal with a Ford dealer, H&R does too.

Cheers
Trev
 
Jim, honestly, no hard feelings. It touched a nerve is all, and as you may see from what I wrote, I have some opinions on the matter. Not really about you in particular, and I hold no ill will towards ya.
I have my cranky moments, and am OK with being 'called' on them.

And other than the odd really offensive thing that I have written in poor taste, anger or haste, I don't mind so much, leaving my mistakes out in the open either. Folks can form their own opinions of me, and like me or lump me as they see fit. I'm not as gently spoken in a face to face conversation, and a lot gets lost in the transition to text on a screen.


I apologize for the name calling. If you would like it edited out, say so, though I can, at this point, do nothing to the other posts that quoted mine.

I'm not always an ###hole, but I sometimes play one online! :)

Cheers
Trev
 
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