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I know its for the Chinese contract but that's about it... is the gun WW2 issue? Was it sent to China then back to Canada? is the stock real?











 
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Steve1987 is the expert, but it does look real, Tony at Trade-Ex knows all about these stocks as he brought a bunch when he was part of Century arms International. Also I know that quite a few went to Australia and were used by the Australian Military sans the stocks.
 
There were holster stocks like that, if that's what you're asking. Worth a pile of money in that condition too. If it's original. Suspect it's a repro. Repro's, Stateside, run $135 US. An original runs $300ish. Goble's, here in London, has one of those.
The Chinese were big on cavalry and carrying side arms on their backs while riding. The stock makes for a very stable shooting platform.
 
Tony told me that they were originally selling for about $35 each in the 1980's when he brought a bunch for Century. Looks correct to me as it is the correct American Black walnut wood and rivets and stamps look right.
 
Is the pistol supposed to be parkerized? It doesnt look like the typical military grey park im used to seeing, its blackish.. refinished?

Steve
 
The stocks Century had were repro, easy to tell them apart from real ones, because of the poor quality "monkey wood" that was used on the repros.
 
From What I Understand, These were produced in 1944. possibly 1945 for the Chinese but never delivered due to the whole Communist thing, so they were just mixed in with the Canadian Inventory during the war. I remember reading these were the standard in the Royal Canadian Navy before Unification in 1968. As for the finish, these pistols were serialized after parkerizing, as a result the serial numbers were "white" on original finish. If the serial number is not "white" then it was refinished at one point. hard to tell from the pic but it looks like it might have been refinished.

I'm no expert though So I could be wrong.
 
stock is real..pistol looks like original finish the frame you can clearly see the bright steel where the numbers are pantographed the slide i suspect has some crud in the numbers the slide and frame have about the same wear so i doubt the slide was re parked ..and yep they should be parked not bluedthe park goes green to black with age ... many of the Chinese pistols never made to china they reneged on the payment iirc most sat in a warehouse out west i beleave and were sold/given to countries like Denmark and Australia and Britain....a number were also issued to Canadian forces both with the tangent sight and with it removed and a regular notch type brazed in its place ..very nicely done too
 
Hi Steve,

Yes, it's a WWII issue Inglis hi-power from the CH serial range originally intended to be shipped to China but most likely ended up in service with the Canadian military during WWII or the post-war years before being sold as surplus. At this point, there's really no way to know exactly which pistols went to China unless they have the ugly Chinese arsenal 'hot blue'. Some of these pistols were also sold surplus by Greece and other nations but for the full history it's best to pick up Clive Laws book 'Inglis Diamond' while copies are still somewhat available, or check out the other threads on Inglis's in this forum. Standard CH series Inglis's are not overly rare in Canada.

It's hard for me to tell from the photos if the serial number is still 'in the white' or if the pistol has been re-finished. It appears possible that finish might be original but in rough shape. I would try putting some oil over the serial number on the slide and frame and maybe it will lift out some of the crud to better view the serial number.

This is what the serial number should look like on an original finish Inglis hi-power:

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I think in the current condition, especially *if* refinished your CH Inglis is in 'shooter' grade condition and you can bring it to the range without risking damage to a historic firearm, but maybe wait and see how it cleans up.

From what I can see of the holster I think it's a nice looking original. Check to see if it still has the felt inside where the tip of the barrel would rest. These shoulder stocks are not very practical and have a somewhat limited collector appeal, usually they are sitting on dealers tables for crazy money and never selling ;) ;)

-Steve
 
The serial numbers appear to still be in the somewhat dirty white.. the sights are marked to 500 (m?) The slide to frame fit is decently tight, the barrel is tight in the slide and the barrel lugs are sharp like new... the stock is high quality, nice walnut wood I believe and the metal looks like its finished in old park thats turning greenish like the WW2 garands do, the metal retainer in the rear of the stock that fits into the back of the browning is blued, its marked SA LTD over 1944 and the stamp is oval with some symbol I can tell and the numbers 57 in it. No other serial numbers of any sort on the stock that I can tell.
 
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There are 2 types of parkeriseing
Zink ( gray to black)
Mangaese (black)

while most JL BHP are gray, many parts I have are black and NIB
also depends on the type of steel and the pre treatment to the steel.
 
i loved shooting my old inglis with the stock on it was surprisingly accurate.....shoot it have fun ..its clearly not as nice as steves but his prolly never saw service ..they still pop up like that once in a blue moon and can get very pricey in minty condition ...yours is in much better condition then the ones that came back through century back in the day they were mostly (not all tho) crudely polished and reblued
 
badboybeeson said:
There are 2 types of parkeriseing
Zink ( gray to black)
Mangaese (black)

while most JL BHP are gray, many parts I have are black and NIB
also depends on the type of steel and the pre treatment to the steel.
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The original finish on Inglis hi-powers is a black phosphate. They are significantly darker than the factory parkerizing found on USGI weapons such as Colt M1911A1's. They do occasionally look 'grey' in photographs.



Regards,
-Steve
 
Mines missing the lanyard ring.. are they impossible to find? I paid $1400 Cnd for the gun and stock for my collection, was curious in if I got burned, I hate going in blind on guns I dont know anything about LOL. Thanks for all the info guys :)

Steve
 
IRUNGUNS said:
Mines missing the lanyard ring.. are they impossible to find? I paid $1400 Cnd for the gun and stock for my collection, was curious in if I got burned, I hate going in blind on guns I dont know anything about LOL. Thanks for all the info guys :)

Steve
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I think you did OK....fair to both parties.
 
According to Clive Law's book on these pistols, yours was made approx Sept of 45. Odds are that yours went to another country than China as part of mutual aid. The Canadian army liked to pawn off the non-standard no1 CH guns to other coutnries, and even to the Canadian navy so they did not have to deal with the variations.
 
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