Civilian Full-Auto ownership in the USA ??? class3/NFA question - do it itself ?

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The market in the US for full auto class 3 weapons is insane....supply and demand, some full autos sell for $30,000.00 USD and crazy prices like that.

Question...if you lived in a full-auto gun-loving state such as Texas, Florida, Arizona, Alaska, etc, instead of spending 25K on a transferable full-auto.....couldn't you just buy a NIB Colt M4LE and then go to Brownells.com and buy a full-auto fire control grouping and FA bolt carrier and have a full-auto Colt M4 for just under 2K ? .....and not 30K ?

Is this possible for a US citizen? ....and have it registered as a "converted Auto"

For under a $100 USD you can order Factory Colt full-auto/Burst fire control parts NIB, and add a FA bolt carrier, and presto, you have a FA Colt M4 without spending freak'n 30 Grand.


Anybody know about this? I'm just curious. I was browsing through my Brownells catalogue (damn I love Brownells, #1 firearms parts distributor in the world) and saw factory Colt Auto/Burst parts and made me wonder if anybody in the US can simply order, install, register, pay $300 BAFTA stamp for class3 , and have some Fun :)
 
The supply of registered FA guns was frozen years ago. No new ones for the civilian market. This is why prices have gone through the roof.
Even a registered conversion set for an AR or M-2 carbine is expensive.
If FAs weren't 12-2 prohibs here, if they were transferable to any RPAL holder, you would have seen the same sort of price increases here. Particularly if you could get them to ranges, which could be done not all that long ago.
 
Pietro Beretta said:
The market in the US for full auto class 3 weapons is insane....supply and demand, some full autos sell for $30,000.00 USD and crazy prices like that.

Question...if you lived in a full-auto gun-loving state such as Texas, Florida, Arizona, Alaska, etc, instead of spending 25K on a transferable full-auto.....couldn't you just buy a NIB Colt M4LE and then go to Brownells.com and buy a full-auto fire control grouping and FA bolt carrier and have a full-auto Colt M4 for just under 2K ? .....and not 30K ?

Is this possible for a US citizen? ....and have it registered as a "converted Auto"

For under a $100 USD you can order Factory Colt full-auto/Burst fire control parts NIB, and add a FA bolt carrier, and presto, you have a FA Colt M4 without spending freak'n 30 Grand.


Anybody know about this? I'm just curious. I was browsing through my Brownells catalogue (damn I love Brownells, #1 firearms parts distributor in the world) and saw factory Colt Auto/Burst parts and made me wonder if anybody in the US can simply order, install, register, pay $300 BAFTA stamp for class3 , and have some Fun :)
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owning the full auto parts and a gun they could work in without the tax stamp and you go to jail for constructive possession of a full auto. if you have a machinegun registered before the 1986 cut off, you can go from full auto to 3 round burst, etc, and you can buy/use new replacement parts, but no new full autos can be made for civilians down there

the lightning link drop in auto sear is a registered machine gun itself down there, you can buy one for well over its weight in gold (about 4x as much i think) and swap it in to any ar you own as often as you want
 
Interesting. I also just googles lightning link auto sear, and wow, very cleaver...and simple once you understand how the AR disconnect works, that lightning link is just a thin, tiny piece of metal placed inside the lower receiver to hold back the disconnect.

Too bad it prohibited :(

Semi-auto is still pretty good, too bad our 30-round mags are pinned to 5 rounds lol.....f@ck'n Canada Ah lol. Oh well....at least we've got it better than NYC or California lol.
 
The 5 round max capacity is ridiculous.
If I wanted 30 round capacity, I'd pop that little rivet. A rivet.
But I won't.
 
Pooker said:
I think current market value is somewhere around $18k+stamp. Check out http://www.sturmgewehr.com/ for some listings. Some of them are out of whack a bit on their pricing, but for the most part I think stuff is about on par.
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That's what I thought. I have some family that lives in the US and can only afford semi. Last price he showed me was 16k for a registered DIAS for his AR.
 
When I was in Oklahoma I had a nice chat with Curtis Higgins of S&H arms he is an acknowledged expert with H&K class III firearms. Curtis informed me the cheapest way to obtain a class III firearm is to get a FN FNC and a dias. In 1986 the law was changed only to allow Dealers to have class III samples. This has caused prices to rise astronomically especially with M16 variants.
 
Wow.....I just checked that site, only $1,500 for a Colt 9mm SMG 10.5" bbl, factory Colt all original safe/semi/auto selector. That's a STEAL lol....they're 2K over here for just semi lol.
 
crash277 said:
Full auto is fun. By only if someone else is payin for the ammo lol.
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I put twenty mags (29 rounds each) through a full auto pof p416 at the Scottsdale gun club in Arizona last month.
Fun, but I'm good now. Itch scratched.
Damn near burned my support hand right through the glove I was wearing.
 
Pietro Beretta said:
Interesting. I also just googles lightning link auto sear, and wow, very cleaver...and simple once you understand how the AR disconnect works, that lightning link is just a thin, tiny piece of metal placed inside the lower receiver to hold back the disconnect.

Too bad it prohibited :(

Semi-auto is still pretty good, too bad our 30-round mags are pinned to 5 rounds lol.....f@ck'n Canada Ah lol. Oh well....at least we've got it better than NYC or California lol.
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For someone who registered in 2004 how is it that you don't know this basic stuff? I'm just curious
 
Pure Energy said:
Not sure what one you are looking at or what site, but a legal class 3 Colt in the US is not 1500. Try 15000 plus.
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He could be looking at the new models which are sold to LE etc. he doesn't seem to grasp some basic covenants of full auto regs in the USA
 
There is only a "pool" of about a 100,000 pre-1986 registered machine guns available to buy and legally transfer. It's simply supply and demand. That's the reason they keep going up in price. So if you have something that you can't really replace, someone has to slap down a pile of green backs so you will part with it.
 
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