Opinions: ACR VS XCR

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First... anybody own both, as I would like a side by side comparison/opinions.

Second got a pic of the two side by side.

Im pretty much debating my next black rifle, and seems like the wait for the HKMR223A1 will be a long one (im not patient) I might as well start reading about/looking at other options (especially if I can go NR route)

So, if you have them post up.

Im hoping to get mostly people that own both, as Im already skimming all the threads on both.

Thanks
 
Here is an old picture of both. They have seen different optics and the XCR now has a fast stock;

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I currently have just over 15k thru my XCR and had to replace an cracked op-rod at 9200 rounds. The ACR has 7800 rounds thru it. I just had to replace the bolt carrier that developed a crack at the cam pin opening. I have to admit I have run them very hard at times.

Which one do I like better,,,,,, that is a tough one to give a definite answer to. Both rifles bring something different to the table. But both rifles have alot in common. At the current state of affairs and for overall value, probably the XCR. (it's initial price was less and has more actual caliber options currently) For potential and future modularity, the ACR.

Realistically, I would buy both rifles again. They are both just fun to shoot and both have been reliable.
 
ACR is on top. The XCR is on the bottom. Yes it will be a Bushmaster

I'm eager to here more about this, as I also would like to purchase one of these in the near future. With the prohibitive cost of both, I can't afford both... yet. I really like how the ACR looks, but it'll be at least a couple extra hundred on top of what are essentially the same rifle. Plus you can find a deal on an XCR in the EE, but ACRs are few and far between, and thus hold their price pretty well. I also like that the XCR already has multiple caliber options, because I already have a 700 in .223 and would like to move up to something with a little more punch that I could take in the bush and not have to worry about seeing a little abuse.
 
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bwilk said:
ACR is on top. The XCR is on the bottom. You can usually tell because the XCR's have a round front end with rails, that doesn't quite cover the end of the gas system. Whereas the ACR is a bit longer and covers almost all of the gas system. Yes it will be a Bushmaster, the states have the Remington version (I think it was their design to start) but I think only the Bushmaster is sold in Canada.

I'm eager to here more about this, as I also would like to purchase one of these in the near future. With the prohibitive cost of both, I can't afford both... yet. I really like how the ACR looks, but it'll be at least a couple extra hundred on top of what are essentially the same rifle. Plus you can find a deal on an XCR in the EE, but ACRs are few and far between, and thus hold their price pretty well. I also like that the XCR already has multiple caliber options, because I already have a 700 in .223 and would like to move up to something with a little more punch that I could take in the bush and not have to worry about seeing a little abuse.
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so much wrong information!

to start, the ACR also has a quad rail forend that lets the gas system stick out a little bit too, so to say you can tell its the XCR because the gas system shows a little more is incorrect.

and the Remington version is for LE/Military only and is full auto. Americans buy the Bushmaster ACR too

and it wasn't Remington's design. it was magpul's design that they sold to the Freedom Group (Remington/Bushmaster and others)
 
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Wow, sorry for that. I am mistaken. I will edit my response. Did Magpul actually design the rifle? I thought they just made accessories/attachments and the like, not full firearms. I also thought that the ACR was Remingtons bid to replace the M4 Carbine design for one of the US military contracts, while the XCR was Robinson Arms' bid.

*Edit: after reading the wiki, it seems the ACR was for the US Army's Infantry/Individual Carbine, and indeed designed by Magpul. It was licensed to Bushmaster for civilian production, and also licensed to Remington for Military and Law Enforcement.
The XCR page says nothing about it being designed for the US Army
 
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I've had/have both.
No comparison at all, the acr is the better design and build quality. More accurate too.
A high end ar is still better than both of them...
 
Correction: you can take it hunting AFTER spending $500+ converting it to NR... which the XCR already is, out of the box. For this fact, the ACR is considerably more expensive.
 
knock-knock said:
Correction: you can take it hunting AFTER spending $500+ converting it to NR... which the XCR already is, out of the box. For this fact, the ACR is considerably more expensive.
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That, or he could wait and buy the DMR version that's non-restricted out of the box and available for pre-order at a bunch of the vendors. It's still somewhere around 2800, but that's only a couple hundred more than a brand new XCR.
 
bigkid1980 said:
hmmm gonna need to some very serious thinkin here. i really like the looks of the ACR, but can't justify the price solely on looks.......but i can take it hunting!
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I'm guessing you had a typo but generally speaking, the ACR is restricted and cannot be taken hunting. The XCR however is available in non restricted models and can be taken hunting. Saying that, there are company's that will do the ACR barrel conversion for a NR classification. Or be patient and wait for the non restricted DMR version to hit the market.
 
The acr I have is rebarreled to non restricted, it is much more consistently accurate than the xcr. Surprisingly so in fact.
I was on the fence about selling my tavor until I saw the kind of groups the acr conversion was spitting out. It was a no brainer at that point...
The acr is more money than the xcr by the time you get the acr nonrestricted, especially with a high quality barrel. But it's worth it. Accuracy is as good or better than a Swiss arms, it uses ar triggers, and has excellent ergos and balance.
You pay more, and you get more.
 
In my humble opinion definitely ACR.

Very close to accuracy to Swiss Arms (My set up was with questar barrel)
Better barrel/install-sight zero retention, didn't like XCR single screw very easy to strip out)

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bwilk said:
That, or he could wait and buy the DMR version that's non-restricted out of the box and available for pre-order at a bunch of the vendors. It's still somewhere around 2800, but that's only a couple hundred more than a brand new XCR.
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ACR non restricted will be $500 more than XCR if you include taxes.
 
andrew3081 said:
ACR non restricted will be $500 more than XCR if you include taxes.
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My mistake, the ACR is 2899, and the XCR is 2350 on SFRC. But that's only in the .223/5.56 caliber. If he wants something to hunt with, wouldn't he want a larger bullet? It gets closer if it's an XCR-M in 308 or with a barrel conversion. That being said, the ACR DMR version is listed with only the .223 option. His intended use might rule it out if he wants to hunt anything more than varmints(I don't hunt, and therefore don't have any clue as to what is an appropriate hunting caliber for larger game), right?
 
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