10 round Pistol Magazines for SKS...legal ?

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I see quite a few ads offering conversion kits for fitting 10 round pistol mags to SKS rifles, is that legal, and what would be the advantages, other than 5 more rounds between fill-ups ?
 
I see quite a few ads offering conversion kits for fitting 10 round pistol mags to SKS rifles, is that legal, and what would be the advantages, other than 5 more rounds between fill-ups ?
i believe they use the xcr pistol mags and I believe that makes them legal . Other than 5 extra round I don't see any advantage .
 
There are no questions of legality. Pistol magazines may legally contain 10 rounds of the ammunition of which they were designed for. Thus, 10 round XCR pistol magazines are not prohibited devices. How you use them is not regulated. It doesn't matter if you shove them in a rifle, or shove them up anything else, they aren't and won't become prohibited devices.

Furthermore, large retailers wouldn't be importing and selling them, risking their license and reputation, if there were any obvious legal issues with these items. That ought to be common sense.
 
There are no questions of legality. Pistol magazines may legally contain 10 rounds of the ammunition of which they were designed for. Thus, 10 round XCR pistol magazines are not prohibited devices. How you use them is not regulated. It doesn't matter if you shove them in a rifle, or shove them up anything else, they aren't and won't become prohibited devices.

Furthermore, large retailers wouldn't be importing and selling them, risking their license and reputation, if there were any obvious legal issues with these items. That ought to be common sense.

Common sense is not so common.

However, when we stick them in an SKS, the SKS is no longer in compliance; or else, they would not have pinned mags before the are released for sale. If you had an SKS, with one of those magazines in it, I suspect that when stopped by a cop or a Game Warden; we would have a lot of explaining to do, and they would likely not buy the explanation. Let lawyers sort this out. Such questions are above my pay grade, and were I in jail, my pay-grade would be much lower than it is now.
 
What is your deal man, it has been explained and in detail that under the law it is legal... posts/threads like these make me wonder what kind of motive a poster would have to create such an issue. Then I remember it's before 7am and I've been up all night, and remove my tinfoil hat... some people.
 
What is your deal man, it has been explained and in detail that under the law it is legal... posts/threads like these make me wonder what kind of motive a poster would have to create such an issue. Then I remember it's before 7am and I've been up all night, and remove my tinfoil hat... some people.

Maybe I'm paranoid, but I have been burned before listening to "arm-chair experts" who personally interpret not only the spirit and intent of the law in the context or under the guise of "common sense".
 
Common sense is not so common.

However, when we stick them in an SKS, the SKS is no longer in compliance; or else, they would not have pinned mags before the are released for sale. If you had an SKS, with one of those magazines in it, I suspect that when stopped by a cop or a Game Warden; we would have a lot of explaining to do, and they would likely not buy the explanation. Let lawyers sort this out. Such questions are above my pay grade, and were I in jail, my pay-grade would be much lower than it is now.

There is no law limiting any rifle or pistol s capacity. There are​however laws limiting the magazine capacity. One for rifles ie 5 rounds and 10 for pistols. Xcr is a pistol so 10 rounds are OK. The fact that you can change a rifle to take a different magazine has zero legality issues. Your not modifying the magazine to fit the gun, but the gun to fit the mag. So your 100% in compliance.
 
They may hassle you as that is what the police are paid to do. The mag capacity stays with the magazine and if you can make that pistol magazine work in a rifle then it is legal to do so. There are many manufactures that build rifles that use glock mags. 10 rounds all day long.

Then there is fitting smaller rounds in the mag for even more capacity like 9mm in 40 cal mags....... oh boy, this thread will need to be locked!
 
If nothing else, understand one important thing; It's not a loophole, it's written law.
Age is no excuse.

Until it's closed with an amended law, or a regulation under the act.

Old equals experience; in other sectors I have seen just such a thing occur where acts did not change, but arbitrary regulations set by bureaucrats in a government agency decide they need more control over something. Remember, I was shooting back when 30 shot banana-clips were fine on Mini-14's and on ARs that were non restricted. Rarely do we see deregulation, except when the government can no longer afford to regulate and/or such regulation no longer garners votes. Of late, on a Provincial level, such regulatory stuff is being handed off to private or professional agencies, and it is user pay. Presently, over regulation of firearms = votes for the present powers that be. They could sell that one to Toronto by stating that it reduces the potential number of victims by 5 before reloading.
 
Until it's closed with an amended law, or a regulation under the act.

Old equals experience; in other sectors I have seen just such a thing occur where acts did not change, but arbitrary regulations set by bureaucrats in a government agency decide they need more control over something. Remember, I was shooting back when 30 shot banana-clips were fine on Mini-14's and on ARs that were non restricted. Rarely do we see deregulation, except when the government can no longer afford to regulate and/or such regulation no longer garners votes. Of late, on a Provincial level, such regulatory stuff is being handed off to private or professional agencies, and it is user pay. Presently, over regulation of firearms = votes for the present powers that be. They could sell that one to Toronto by stating that it reduces the potential number of victims by 5 before reloading.


Old doesn't equal experience. A 26 year old who got a drivers licence at 16 and has 10 years of driving under their belt; has more experience than a 55 year old who got their license at 53.
 
4. Magazines designed for one firearm but used in a different firearm

The maximum permitted capacity of a magazine is determined by the kind of firearm it is designed or manufactured for use in and not the kind of firearm it might actually be used in. As a consequence, the maximum permitted capacity remains the same regardless of which firearm it might be used in.

Example:
The Marlin model 45 (Camp Carbine) rifle chambered for 45 Auto caliber uses magazines designed and manufactured for the Colt 1911 handgun, therefore the seven round and eight round capacities are permitted.

this pretty much sums up the whole thread
 
Old doesn't equal experience. A 26 year old who got a drivers licence at 16 and has 10 years of driving under their belt; has more experience than a 55 year old who got their license at 53.

Except that I have owned firearms (restricted, non restricted and prohibited) since 1974, and I have seen Acts and Regulations change. I did not even need an FAC when I started; it was that long ago.
 
I don't know what you are arguing about. A 10 cartridge mag designed for a handgun is for a handgun only. Mag designed for use in both SA rifles and SA handguns are subject to the limit of 5 cartridges.
 
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