100M/YD 22LR 10 rnd groups

20210801_170836.jpgthis was today in between 223 load testing.i only had 10 of sk pms and 10 of sk pm after using up the rest at 50 yards while trying out different scopes.
 

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Thanks I also have a 15 shot group on another target that is tad over .9 it was sk pistol match from different lot number.the thing that brought my groups from 1.9 was I just received a front rest.so
I noticed the improvement.the one inch groups are pulling me into trying alot more 100.my 223 5 shot group was .375 with the rest over using a bipod.
 
The horsemen who Shirley can't be headless and shoot the way he does has officially kicked off the 100 yrd challenge,rules and all,and I for one have excepted that challenge I say.
 
The horsemen ... has officially kicked off the 100 yrd challenge,rules and all,and I for one have excepted that challenge I say.

In other words, you accept the challenge. The way it's put, you've kind of said you don't want to be included.:p

I'm thinking of accepting it, too. I'd have to go to Staples to get them to copy the target on 65 lb cardstock. It's too bad that an 8.5 X 11" cardstock with dots for aiming points won't do as a target. I've got lots of blank cardstock that I use to make targets by putting dots on them with a marker. But I can print out a copy of the target and get it copied on cardstock.

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A Suggestion to Promote Participation in the "100 yard/meter ten shot challenge".

Easy-to-make at home targets using four equidistant dots on an 8.5 X 11" 65 lb cardstock.

What follows below is not intended to skewer in any way the work and rules developed by horseman2, who is to be commended for his efforts and stepping up. This is only a suggestion that might serve to encourage more participation in the challenge by using a "homemade" (read less expensive) target that's the same size and layout.

I know I should have made this suggestion earlier, but it may not be too late -- especially if this challenge has a long life due to enthusiastic participation. More shooters may be interested in this challenge. Since many long distance .22LR shooters forgo the 50 yard 1/2" challenge as too easy or not worth their time, it's something that longer range shooters might wish to try. In other words, a change to the 100 yard rules may be worth considering.

Perhaps the requirement for the target itself can be a little more flexible, as it is with the 1/2" challenge, which has no prescribed or official target. This 100 yard challenge could still require an 8.5" X 11" target, with the same number of bulls -- one sighter and three for record.

On the 100 yard target, four dots can be put on blank cardstock as aim points, one of them for a sighter. Each dot can be easily made equidistant from each other and the edges of the paper. The dots shown on the examples below are about 1/8" (.125") in diameter. If a larger aim point is required, someone can use a larger dot.

Below on the left is an example of a target, with four equidistant aim points. It's missing only the approximately 3.5" diameter circles around each aim point, which, if necessary, could be easily added with a simple compass. On the right is an example of a target with the circles added, made with a compass my missus found while I'm typing this. This particular compass uses pencil lead like those that go in a mechanical pencil. Another compass could easily use a slim marker which would leave a more readily visible circle. The official target outer circle appears to be about 3.5" in diameter, which is what's shown below. The size can be confirmed if the circle is necessary.

Note that to qualify the group itself doesn't need to be centered, as it's not scored with the rings themselves but rather by overall centre-to-center group size. If the purpose of the outer ring is to contain all ten shots to make the group legitimate, the groups can be up to about 3.5" to remain not disqualified.

These examples can be used vertically or horizontally.






 
I would like to add that once the 100 yrd challenge is running along,that we use this thread as the comment section or do we use the challenge thread.there is an argument to be made to keep the thread from clutter with chit chat.but it doesn't matter to me.
 
Can there be an iron sight class? Or hunter class ( Scopes with magnifications less than 12X ) So it will open it up to everybody and not just those with purely target rifles and 20 +x scopes?

Because my iron sight rifle would require a different target.
 
100m x 10 x 4

Just getting my feet wet therefore I don't have
the pics & info. for Horsemans thread (yet) .

Post is shot of our range ( flippin smokey ) centre
between the large Pine and Fir.

We have targets at 60m , 80m , 100m & 120m they
just came out that way.

Target on 110 # paper sure cuts sharp also mm is all
we've measured so the shot number 9 - 41mm spread.

Anschutz 1710 D HB with SK Std. Plus .

We are having fun... skwerl
 

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Glenn , That is an excellent suggestion.

At this time, it's standardized official target only.

Shucks I missed the standardized target part

The "challenge" to meet in the "100 Yards/Metres 22 Long Rifle Challenge" is to use the standardized target printed on 65 lb cardstock and produce three groups within the largest rings -- that is, three sub-3.25" groups. (The diameter of the seven ring is measured at 3.25".) Shooters may wish to post improvements on previous entries.

Above in post #105 I've offered a suggestion to allow the use "homemade" targets that are on standardized 65 lb cardstock. There could be a minimum group size requirement of 3.25". I think it might encourage more participation from those shooters who don't have easy access to printers or photocopying services. As noted, however, it's standardized official target only.

I would like to add that once the 100 yrd challenge is running along,that we use this thread as the comment section or do we use the challenge thread.there is an argument to be made to keep the thread from clutter with chit chat.but it doesn't matter to me.

That is already prescribed in the instructions in the first post of the official challenge thread. Post only results and any comments such as congratulations or questions must be directed to the poster himself. Extraneous commentary is discouraged. The role of the thread host is only to record the Rifle, Date, Group Average of qualifying entries in the third post of the official challenge thread.

To sum up, using only the official, standardized target reproduced on 65 lb cardstock, shoot three ten-shot groups. If all rounds of the group are within the 7 ring (no larger than 3.25") the target qualifies. Shooters may post improvements on previous successful entries.
 
By requiring 65 lb cardstock you have lost about 75% of the people that possibly would have joined the challenge.

Please allow me to justify my reasoning and it is not one dimensional.

65 lb card stock produces clean holes that can be measured.
Part of the idea with the target used is that it has been previously used on this rimfire site.
It is a target that works well within those interested in competition who will eventually progress to a club level when shooting for score.
If 65 lb index is not the answer then allow me to invite you to score targets shot on 20 lb and argue a value because it "tore" into a ring of higher value.
For Club shoots, targets printed by Staples in quantities of 500 does not make financial sense. At $0.17 per target I can not justify printing at home.
Any moisture during a shoot will destroy 20 lb paper. 65 lb card stock targets can be separated when wet and allowed to dry with minimal deterioration.

With a bit of levity two theories might be advanced with similar outcomes:

Cheaper oats can be had but they have been through the horse once!

Tissue paper is cheaper even when it has been used once! No $hit!
 
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By requiring 65 lb cardstock you have lost about 75% of the people that possibly would have joined the challenge.

I realize that some members live in rural areas without easy access to a printing shop. I live in a city, but I do not have a computer printer at home. I get all my targets printed (on card stock) at the local print shop. All printing shops have cardstock (65 lb), as its a common component of their business. Most printing shops will have you email the PDF (as an attachment) to them, and they will print it. I go to my local print shop with the PDF saved on my phone and email it to them while I wait at the counter, and they print my targets while I wait.

For rural folks without easy access, maybe next time you are in town for supplies, drop into the local print shop with your PDF on your phone for cardstock prints. If it is a small town with no print shop, there should be a place in town for making photocopies (might have to carry the PDF on a USB stick). If for some reason they are out of cardstock, its an easy item to order online for your own supply. Cardstock is very useful to have on hand if you are a shooter anyways - You can make targets when you need them.

For the rimfire 1/2 inch group challenge, I hand-drew my target on cardstock 8.5x11 (which I have a supply of at home), using a ruler and Staedtler stencil. Those Staedtler stencils with various sized circles and other shapes are very handy to have as well for making target designs with pencils and markers old school style.
 
I used to get targets copied for me at Staples, but I don't do it any longer -- except for this 100 yard challenge.

This morning I went to Staples to get the official target copied on 65 lb cardstock. Unlike previous orders to copy on 65 lb cardstock, my local Staples now has the copying done out of store. The wait is a day. In the past I could usually get a small run of copies, such as the 50 targets I ordered today, while I waited. I'll have to go back tomorrow to pick them up (or the next if conditions are calm enough to go to the range instead).

The price for 50 official targets photocopied on 65 lb cardstock was $14.68 -- or $0.29 each.

For comparison, it's possible to get 250 sheets of 65 lb cardstock from Amazon for about $22, delivered to the door. That's less than $0.10 per sheet.

If you can shoot targets with simple dots for aim points (I have no need for circles to encourage shooting smaller groups), a simple stencil makes producing any number of targets very quick and easy. There are other methods, but what I do is locate where I want the dots or aim points and drill a 1/8" hole through several sheets of cardstock to make good stencils. With a Sharpie, it's now possible to make identical targets quickly and reliably. With a wee bit of time and little effort, these targets can be made at home at your convenience at low prices.
 
I have 1000 targets on 65b card paper,but none with that exact target printed.i looked on line to order that type target and came up with nothing.i found a place a few months back in the states but can't find it now,my only option is to drive to the city and have them made up.
 
Or, you can email the PDF attachment to a print shop, and have them postal service mail you back the targets. Might cost less than your fuel costs to run the errand?

If there is a copyright or a watermark. Alot of places won't print them. At least was my case when I wanted some targets printed for another challenge. Staples told me I had to copy them myself.
 
Or, you can email the PDF attachment to a print shop, and have them postal service mail you back the targets. Might cost less than your fuel costs to run the errand?

Interesting,that's an idea,just get a buddy who knows how to email pdf attachments.my buddy owns a print shop.
 
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