"Let's talk a .45 cal/300 grain bullet doing 2100 fps from a 12 gauge and then tell me it's not in the .45/70 range"
A slug gun and new slugs may be fine for a deer in close quarters, but that is where the similarities end.
350-GR WOODLEIGH WELD-CORE JSP AT 2000-FPS
350 gr. J.F.N. (2150 fps / M.E. 3592 ft. lbs.)
300gr. Speer Uni Core @ 2350 fps (3678 ft. lbs.)
405 gr. J.F.N. (2000 fps / M.E. 3597 ft. lbs.)
430 gr. L.B.T.- L.F.N. - G.C. (1925 fps / M.E. 3537 ft. lbs.)
Nosler Partition 300 gr 2367 fps 3733 ft lbs
So you just basically proved my point by showing virtually identical ballistics between the 12 gauge and 45/70 so how does that make the 12 gauge any shorter range gun than the 45/70? BTW, those are some pretty hot loads you are quoting! Basically you've got a very well constructed bullet designed for maximum penetration of the same diameter and weight as the 45/70 going the roughly the same speeds and delivering the same energy.....help me understand how this makes the 12 gauge such a shorter range gun? Who has the blinders on?
Just curious what length barrel you are getting those velocities out of and what pressures you are developing......303's posted velocities seem more in line with standard 45/70 loads!
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