1851 navy issue

audet548

audet548

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Hi folks,

I recently bought a Pietta 1851 navy .44 cal. I shot it a few times since and it doesn't always fire on the first hit of the hammer but always on the second as if the cap were not properly seated on the nipples.

I use #10 cap as specified in the user manual. I push the cap on the nipple with my fingers only...am I doing something wrong or should I use #11 cap, use a capper...

Any help would be appreciated

thanks
 
It sounds like the caps are not tight enough down on the nipple. You could try seating them a bit more firmly, using a piece of wood. You could also try putting a small wedge under the mainspring (without loosening the mainspring screw. Be very cautious and conservative about the size of the wedge. It should increase the tension when the hammer is cocked

cheers mooncoon
 
there are many variables when you shoot b/p , not the least of which are your caps- it could very well be your caps are thicker in the cups and needs that extra whump to explode- could also be your hammer hasn't the velocity to make the cap ignite- being a pietta, if i recall correctly, hammer springs were an issue with those- the cure was to get a DIXIE spring set- this was right across the board- as for 10 /11 caps, i've always used 11s, just b/c it was more common
 
mooncoon said:
It sounds like the caps are not tight enough down on the nipple. You could try seating them a bit more firmly, using a piece of wood. You could also try putting a small wedge under the mainspring (without loosening the mainspring screw. Be very cautious and conservative about the size of the wedge. It should increase the tension when the hammer is cocked

cheers mooncoon
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Thanks for the advice, but I'm not sure how much pressure I can put on the caps...is it safe to push hard on them with a piece of wood as long as I don't hit them?

As for the wedge, I'm not quite sure where to put it, do I put it between the hammer and the spring? What material do I use to make the wedge?

Thank you
 
The #10 caps are designed for smaller guns like the 1849 Pocket or Baby Dragoon, there is a difference between brands as well (Remington and CCI) sounds like the smaller cap isn't seating properly on the nipple...try a #11 with your .44 cal....should work.
 
audet548 said:
Thanks for the advice, but I'm not sure how much pressure I can put on the caps...is it safe to push hard on them with a piece of wood as long as I don't hit them?

As for the wedge, I'm not quite sure where to put it, do I put it between the hammer and the spring? What material do I use to make the wedge?

Thank you
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You can put quite a bit of pressure on the caps and they will not detonate. Think in terms of pushing down with 20 or 30 lbs of force on the piece of wood

the mainspring, unless I am mistaken is a single leaf that is screwed to the front bottom of the inside of the frame. you would have to take the grips off to see that. Alternately it could be held in a notch at the bottom and accomplishes the same purpose. From there it sweeps up and back to the bottom inside of the hammer. If you put a small wedge of wood or metal between the front of the frame (handle) and the spring, when you #### the gun, the spring will bend over a shorter sharper arc ie it will spring back with more more. Start with a small amount of wedging or shimming. Were you to add a big long block the mainspring will be bent on too sharp an angle and probably break

cheers mooncoon
 
My Uberti 1860 had to strike the cap once then it would fire on the second hit. the mangled cap would jam the cylinder. I switched to Remington #11caps problem solved! The rem caps are shorter and go on much easier. It still jams once in a while but is a huge improvement over the CCI #11 caps.
 
thank you guys for your help,

I think I'll try the #11 caps as it is the easiest thing to do, but the wedge is a good idea if it doesn't work.

Cheers
 
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