1905 Ross Heavy Barrel

Looking great! Switch over to Imgur by the way - photobucket's quality and user interface has gone to sh**t in the last several years.

Also I have no hard facts, but most of the pressure capabilities I've read about refer to the MKIII with the 7 lug bolt head rather than the 1905 with the twin lugs. I have no idea if what I'm saying is correct, but that's the impression I get.

In any event, 303 is a good cartridge. The gun's looking great too! A little cleanup on the stock and you could have a very pretty and unique target gun!
 
I liked IMGUR for a while, but finally it quit working on XP. They only support the newest OS. Had to swap to Snapagogo, which I love.






Looking great! Switch over to Imgur by the way - photobucket's quality and user interface has gone to sh**t in the last several years.

Also I have no hard facts, but most of the pressure capabilities I've read about refer to the MKIII with the 7 lug bolt head rather than the 1905 with the twin lugs. I have no idea if what I'm saying is correct, but that's the impression I get.

In any event, 303 is a good cartridge. The gun's looking great too! A little cleanup on the stock and you could have a very pretty and unique target gun!
 
Gonna give the Imgur a try. Seems a little slower to upload photos so far, and the links aren't as easy to get for posting pics. I'm still learning though, but at least it shows my pictures exactly as I upload them......doesn't rotate anything.

I had to do some fixing on the rifle, my extractor wasn't working. A little bit due to the extractor piece being bent and a little to do with the notch in the barrel not being cut deep enough. Haven't fired it since I "think" I fixed it, but it's at least extracting the previously fired brass.

Also had to bend the arm for the magazine floor plate. It was making the cartridges sit too flat and they wouldn't feed into the chamber.

Going to give it a run at the range and see how consistent and accurate it is.....next week sometime when I'm back in Edmonton.

Edit: I should add that this thing is pretty tame shooting with such a heavy barrel!
 
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A split casing where yours is split generally is indicative of an extremely loose or incorrect chamber: 'way too much headspace for brass expansion to handle

If you rechambered that toasted 243 barrel for the 6mm Remington, things might become very interesting.

The action will certainly handle the pressure; 1905 was rated as a 100,000 pound action, the 1910 even higher.
 
A split casing where yours is split generally is indicative of an extremely loose or incorrect chamber: 'way too much headspace for brass expansion to handle

If you rechambered that toasted 243 barrel for the 6mm Remington, things might become very interesting.

The action will certainly handle the pressure; 1905 was rated as a 100,000 pound action, the 1910 even higher.

Thanks for that bit of info smellie!

I'm not sure I'll try to chamber a 1905 for anything else, I have no doubt some people would be upset with me over that anyways......something along the lines of wrecking a milsurp. But, I guess that barrel might not be completely wasted if I could rechamber it to 6mm Rem. We'll see what the future brings I suppose.
 
Thanks for that bit of info smellie!

I'm not sure I'll try to chamber a 1905 for anything else, I have no doubt some people would be upset with me over that anyways......something along the lines of wrecking a milsurp. But, I guess that barrel might not be completely wasted if I could rechamber it to 6mm Rem. We'll see what the future brings I suppose.

6mm Mag ??? :)
 
As Borat would say "Great success!"

Groups well enough so far. Has a preference for 180 gr Winchesters. Was intentionally setting it to hit high, just couldn't get it centred......not enough ammo that it liked the most. Thought I had it good and centred at one point but then realized my scope rings were coming loose....only had them finger tight.

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Feeding is a little finicky though, I think I need to bend the magazine floor plate piece a little to help angle the tips of the cartridges up a little more. And sometimes the ejector doesn't kick the cartridge right out, seems to work better when I crank the bolt back faster though.

Happy so far! Got the barrel good and warm too, takes a while to cool that thing off when it gets warmed up.
 
Holy I'd say. That's at 100m?

haha, I wish.....Phoenix is only 40 yards. Can be quite deceiving for stuff like this I suppose, but I'm hoping it's consistency holds for greater distances!

I need to do a few touch-ups, not sure if I should locktite the scope base screws into the barrel either??? Bedding the bases as well maybe? They aren't a prefectly matched contour with the barrel.
 
I'm thinking of ordering some barrel blanks for some more threading here.

Was looking at the Krieger website, and from some rough notes I have with some measurements, it looks like a #3 medium sporter would be a good candidate for a factory sporter 1905. I just so happen to have one in good condition with a terribly worn out barrel, and another one in bits and pieces that I have no complete bolt or stock for. I don't actually have a barrel with me right now to measure and compare with the Krieger measurements, but I'm hoping to at least get a contour very close so I have to do minimal turning on my end.

Wonder if anyone has any suggestions for contours for the full length military barrels? I figured I might order a couple and give that a try as well as the factory sporter lengths.

Nothing immediate here, took me damn near a year to get around to getting just one barrel done.......
 
Swap you a 1905-R barrel for a 1905-R stock if you do these. Rifle I just bought may need rebarelled if a recrown or counterbore doesn't work. It's tumbling bullets badly, full on sideways entry at about 75m.
 
I think that could work out. I just want to get a barrel as close to the factory contour as possible, so I don't have to worry about machining it myself. Also figured if I'm ordering 1 or 2 blanks, might as well order a couple extras......in case I screw one up, and in case someone else wants one. I'm not sure what the wait time is for any particular barrel.
 
Curious if anyone would have any suggestions of barrel makers to look at? Kreiger would be in the neighbourhood of $500 for a blank, but it would be a good barrel. Too good for one of these rifles, or just right?

I'm not totally familiar with who's the best/worst/middle when it comes to barrel blanks. I also suppose I could ask in the gunsmithing forum, but I figured I'd throw it out here for some suggestions, since the thread is already here.
 
Just a suggestion but for the MkII it wouldn't be improper to use a .308 groove, .300 bore barrel and just chamber it to .303 case. The earlier Rosses often had bores of this size. The wildcat 303/308 is an awesome set up because you get many more choices for bullets and much more availability. I have had several Rosses like that.
 
You gents know that on the 1905 receivers, there were 2 different barrel sizes, both with totally different threading systems right?

Lots who have 1905 actions might have the big later threads too.

Easier to thread for them by a considerable margin.

BTW, the barrels are not a drop in fit. The things are like snowflakes, no 2 the same.
 
MkII** is different than the rest correct? It uses a thread closer to the MkIII does it not? The rest are the 2TPI left hand buttress thread. Of course the barrel has to be indexed, headspaced, etc on the receiver to work with the bolt, but the thread should be the same design barrel to barrel should it not?
 
Yes, the buttress thread barrels may be a drop in, the story was they were designed to be changed in the field.

Yes, the Mk II** barrels will fit into the Mk III receivers.

But...at one point I had a great barrel in a bent Mk II** receiver. (had been used as a pry bar :rolleyes:)

And, a shortened barrel in a great receiver. So I got the gunsmith to spin them both out and install the long bbl into the good receiver. It looked like it'd work out great, but it didn't. The barrel ended up 180 degrees out. And then of course, if you turned the shoulder back, the headspace would be wrong etc etc. He ended up straightening out the bent receiver rather than doing that bbl swap.

Nothing simple about working on Rosses. So much like snowflakes it's scary.
 
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