1911's...best bang for your buck....

Pistolwhiptricks said:
There is no difference in fit between the 2. The Spartan is assembled in the phillippines with STI parts, other than the slide and frame, and then it goes through STI's QC for fitting, etc. So you are basically getting a custom fitted 1911 in the $700-$800 price range. As for the finish the Spartan is parkerized where as the Trojan is blued.
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The trojan has a different frame with better features on it. Also the frame and slide quality of the trojan is way better than the spartan. Spartan frames are made in the Philipines not the US like the trojan.
 
Well being the owner of a Sig Nitron rail, 2 Ruger SR1911s and a Norinco 1911TT sport, I can say they all have merit. With a trigger job and just a few parts changed such as a lighter main spring and sear spring, the Norinco TT sport is great bang for the buck. Lots of extras out of the box such as a full length guide rod, extended mag release, beavertail and an ambi safety on a gun for $350..... hard to beat. Hard chrome carbon steel frame and barrel so you know they will last. The Rugers are great in their price point too. Classic clean lines. Great shooters.... I love mine but if I had to keep only one it would be the Sig. Fit and finish, trigger feel and accuracy are superb right out of the box and it just seems to get better and better. Worth every penny of the G note I paid for it and compares to 1911s that are 1 1/2 times the price. Now... which 1911 do I buy next?? LOL
 
CdnInAz said:
another vote for Ruger SR1911. Coming up on 15 months since I got mine. Have logged 8229 rounds, 8033 of those my own reloads, mostly lead. Much of shooting has been at matches, both weekly fun and monthly qualifiers. No problems with gun, have been very happy. Paid $649US two days after official release, definitely "best bang for buck" that you asked for.
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How many FTF/FTC did you have with that high number of reloads? I have on a waiting list for several months for my SR1911. If it does not come soon I might just get a Sig 220 or 1911. Thanks
 
I can't comment on the 'E' line specifically, but I have a standard S&W 1911 and I am very pleased with it. Fit and finish is of high quality (on par with Sig IMO) and accuracy out of the box is quite good. Out of the box, trigger is crisp with a clean break and no creep at all. 2 common knocks are the external extractor and the non E series guns have a schwartz style FP safety (grip safety actuated). I have not experienced any issues with either. The E series do not employ a FP safety which is a big selling point for lots of guys.
 
Thanks... Now price point specifically... What would you guys go with? I'm sure all have their pros and cons.

1) STI TROJAN
2) Dlask Arms 1911
3) S&W 1911 E series

Thank you for the help in deciding.
 
dink27 said:
1911's a re a great platform. but be warned they can be expensive. So many parts to change and modify and the cost of .45ACP isn't exactly going down.
Have you considered buying a 1911 in 22lr or getting a 22lr conversion kit? I'd strongly recommend that you budget for that. It will help you to practice with a more economical cartridge.

Some good lets call them budget 1911s in my opinion are in not particular order
Ruger SR1911 ~$700
Para GI Export 1911 ~$700
STI Spartan ~$800
Para Big Hawg ~$1000 its a double stack
Kimber Custom II ~1000
STI Torjan ~$1100


I've shot Norinco's I wasn't impressed with the way they're built. I've never shot a Springfield, S&W, or Sig. But have heard good and bad things about them.

Things like quality is sort of subjective. Does it have a pretty finish vs is the finish durable. Depends on what your after, to me I want durable, maybe you want pretty. Or maybe you want something that was well machined and not covered in tooling marks.
Reliability is a different story. 1911's are notorious for not being reliable. That can be overcome if the gun was well built to start with and you maintain it correctly. You'll also need to find ammo yours likes and feed it that. Quality mags also make a world of difference.

Hope that helps,

D!NK27
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try and steer clear of the new paras they are not wht they used to be
 
SKS-Stu said:
How many FTF/FTC did you have with that high number of reloads? I have on a waiting list for several months for my SR1911. If it does not come soon I might just get a Sig 220 or 1911. Thanks
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had a few FTF when I first started loading lead, but those were my problem not the gun - I had to learn proper crimp on lead. Started with a bit too much so caused a bump at rim - that also taught me to case gauge each and every round, something I had not done with 9mm FMJs.

Only other FTFs I had were after I worked down to a nice light load in minor PF for limited 10 matches. Combo of light loads, bit of dirt buildup because I did not do my usual cleaning after previous match, and my thumb against slide on safety - failed to cycle properly. Again my fault, not gun - I don't want to change my grip (comes from time behind Canadian Hi-Powers with their tiny safety) so I have since just stuck with proper major PF loads.

Other then those two 'events', failures have been very rare - only the rare misfeed once in a while.

As I said above, very happy with this 1911 - mine has done a lot of banging for the buck :)
 
sorry just saw this reply now!

the Norinco has worked flawlessly :)

ive already put around 500 rounds through it so far and not a single hiccup. cant comment on the accuracy because im a noob shooter, but i can make a decent grouping at about 25 yards?

i have put new grips, compensator, and new magaines on it. everything fits and functions perfectly.



on a side note im looking into buying a Rock Island nickel finished .38 super 1911...

any leads for me??:D
 
trebor2880 said:
You won't be disappointed, please give us a range report with your shooting results.

Norinco .45 ammo is a good deal, also. $329 a thousand @ CanadaAmmo.
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sorry just saw this reply now!

the Norinco has worked flawlessly

ive already put around 500 rounds through it so far and not a single hiccup. cant comment on the accuracy because im a noob shooter, but i can make a decent grouping at about 25 yards?

i have put new grips, compensator, and new magaines on it. everything fits and functions perfectly.



on a side note im looking into buying a Rock Island nickel finished .38 super 1911...

any leads for me??
 
trebor2880 said:
For $599 at Canada Ammo, I got a Norinco 1911 Police Model with 1000rds. ammo, with a very good fit and finish with a much improved trigger pull over the older ones. More accurate than my SIG 220 and at par with the Spartan........Anyone criticising Norinco's, hasn't shot one lately, if at all.
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About time to bump this post /\

The Norkie 1911 has to be the top 1911 bang for the buck.
 
I think the nrinco 1911 is the best bang for buck. Fit and finish might not be there but good for the $
I did just get a sr1911 today and I love it.
 
adrian118 said:
I think the nrinco 1911 is the best bang for buck. Fit and finish might not be there but good for the $
I did just get a sr1911 today and I love it.
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You sir, are a man after my own heart!!!

I was going to say that after the Norkies, the Ruger SR1911 is the best 1911 BFTB.

That is why the CFO is at this time, processing my transfer for a SR1911. :dancingbanana:
 
Buy a Norinco 1911 Commander. Shoot it, dissasemble it, clean it, get yourself used to the 1911 platform. Then, if you like it, go buy a SR1911, you can keep the norinco if you wish or sell it off.

I bought a norinco as my first 1911 and I am glad I did, it is a gun you don't need to worry too much about and it will get you into the 1911 platform. Also despite knowing about the possibility of putting an idiot scratch on a 1911 and knowing how to avoid it, I still put one on the Norinco. I would have hated myself if I had put that scratch on a nice 1911 but since it was on the Norinco it was simply a good lesson learned.
 
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