1oz vs 1 1/8 oz load skeet and trap

Registered ATA targets are max 1200 FPS non registered are what ever you want . I started shooting 7/8oz and 1 oz back in the 80’s for ATA trap mostly handloading at that time used 1oz 7.5 back to the 23/24 yd line on handicap and 7/8 oz for 16yd and first bird on doubles
 
struff55 said:
Registered ATA targets are max 1200 FPS non registered are what ever you want . I started shooting 7/8oz and 1 oz back in the 80’s for ATA trap mostly handloading at that time used 1oz 7.5 back to the 23/24 yd line on handicap and 7/8 oz for 16yd and first bird on doubles
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I believe you are allowed 1290 FPS for 1 1/8 oz. now for ATA.
 
May have changed have not shot s registered target since about 1999 1290 FPS for a 16 yd target they must be making the targets from a much harder material
 
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ATA Rule book page#48 section #3 A contestant cannot use: Any load with a velocity greater than 1290 FPS with a maximum shot charge of 1 1/8oz or 1325 FPS with a maximum shot charge of 1oz or 1350 FPS with a maximum shot charge of 7/8oz or less as measured in any indvidual shotshell. These velocities are maximum and no individual shotshell shall execeed these limits.
 
stubblejumper said:
I started purchasing only 1 ounce loads for sporting clays, and my scores didn't decrease at all. They do fine at wobble trap as well, although I don't shoot a lot of trap. I usually shoot skeet with the 410 and 28 gauge, and my 28 gauge scores are within 1 of my 12 gauge scores, so even 3/4 ounce loads don't make much difference to me. I did notice that the patterns are slightly tighter with the 1 ounce loads, than with the 1-1/8 ounce loads.
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Agree. 1/2 410 is where I see scores drop. Most times can shoot the 28ga better than the 12ga with only 3/4 oz in the 28ga
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From my limited playing around there is not a lot of pattern loss from 11/8 oz thru to 7/8 oz at reasonable yardage . proving again that a shot column height that near matches bore diameter is a good thing . I have found that shooting 1oz or 7/8oz is a lot less trying and I tend to shoot better . bottom line I shoot for fun not to beat my self up with heavy recoiling sporting loads . soft shooting loads that get the job done are much more enjoyable .
 
Shooting a 500 bird marathon with 1290 FPS loads would absolutely guarantee you a flinch .that was why I would load 7/8 oz st 1100-1150 FPS no felt recoil . Never mind lifting a 8-10 lb gun 500 times in a afternoon .
 
1250 fps in both clays and upland seems to be about the max performance for 12ga and 20ga.

Best results are had with better shells when needed.
 
Their is a couple of other things to consider here as well, the faster that load is the more pellet deformation you end up with as well, slower loads tend to pattern tighter and more uniform as well. Pellet energy at target comes in as well, the faster you drive small shot the faster is slows down, the pellet energy at 40 yrds isn't much different between a 1180 fps load and a 1250 fps load.
 
There is a commanding difference in a 1 1/8 load at 1250 vs 1 1/8 at 1180.

Premium handicap loads at distance preform, it’s what they are made for.
 
I shoot nothing for trap but 1oz with a published velocity of 1200 fps. Nice and soft and they crush targets as well as any 3 dram 1 1/8oz load. My gf was new to shooting last season. She shot trap using a 20ga Beretta A400 Xplore with 7/8oz Remington Gun Club ammo with a published velocity of 1200fps through a mod choke and when she connected she inkballed them. After watching her go through about 3 flats of ammo before we switched into hunting mode in September it got me thinking maybe I should get a 20ga tube made for my TM1....I bet that would get some WTH looks at a registered shoot?!! :p
 
Years ago I read an article in a shotgun publication about a US shooter who took a shooting course through Holland & Holland while on vacation. He learned to shoot "English" style with their guns and ammo.

He busted every bird on the course after he managed the technique and was astounded to learn that he was shooting 12 ga 3/4 oz. loads! The instructor told him that it was only Americans who thought you needed 1-1/8 oz. of shot to break a clay bird.

He became a believer.
 
Sorry Jimmy808, science doesn't lie, those super premium handicap loads do have harder shot in them but at 40 yrds their isn't a lot of energy difference between them and your light target loads. When shooting Skrap, I usually don't change to a Full choke until we get back past the 32yrd line and an ounce of #8 still breaks targets back to the 47yrd line on our field at that point I think the pattern is getting thin. My pet reload is 1Oz of #8 at 1220fps for shooting Skrap.
 
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