1oz vs 1 1/8 oz load skeet and trap

Maritime Storm said:
Sorry Jimmy808, science doesn't lie, those super premium handicap loads do have harder shot in them but at 40 yrds their isn't a lot of energy difference between them and your light target loads. When shooting Skrap, I usually don't change to a Full choke until we get back past the 32yrd line and an ounce of #8 still breaks targets back to the 47yrd line on our field at that point I think the pattern is getting thin. My pet reload is 1Oz of #8 at 1220fps for shooting Skrap.
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I think what he's getting at is that the harder shot will give tighter patterns than the softer shot which is beneficial at long range and he's correct however, higher velocity also tends to spread the pattern more which in turn somewhat negates the benefits.
 
Years ago I won a flat of Winchester Super Speed 3/4 oz 12 g loads and if memory serves, I think they were around 1400 fps, maybe even 1450???. Not a shell I would have gone out and purchased but I decided to try them at the 27 yard trap line one day at a fun shoot and I was amazed at the way they crushed targets!
 
Falconflyer said:
Years ago I won a flat of Winchester Super Speed 3/4 oz 12 g loads and if memory serves, I think they were around 1400 fps, maybe even 1450???. Not a shell I would have gone out and purchased but I decided to try them at the 27 yard trap line one day at a fun shoot and I was amazed at the way they crushed targets!
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Sure they were not 7/8 in 12ga
I remember 1 oz and 7/8 with the gray wad but no 3/4 factory other than 20ga but could be wrong
They were 1350 & 1400
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Falconflyer said:
They might have been 7/8 but I still think they were 3/4.... I could be wrong though, they were really fast for a target load! It was probably 20 years ago now and I've never seen those shells again.
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Yep they were fast but 7/8 IMHO
I was loading a lot of 12ga in those years and would not have missed that
In fact it was claybuster that made the first 3/4 wad in 2012
Cheers

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Maritime Storm said:
Sorry Jimmy808, science doesn't lie, those super premium handicap loads do have harder shot in them but at 40 yrds their isn't a lot of energy difference between them and your light target loads. When shooting Skrap, I usually don't change to a Full choke until we get back past the 32yrd line and an ounce of #8 still breaks targets back to the 47yrd line on our field at that point I think the pattern is getting thin. My pet reload is 1Oz of #8 at 1220fps for shooting Skrap.
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I don’t use handicap shells for everything, for handicap well ya but not every time either. As satisfying as stomping gray AAs into the mud for practice would be just can’t bring myself to do it. I also carry a couple boxes around for SC on certain stations.

If you can’t tell the difference in them don’t shoot them it sounds like you have a load that works well for you, your very own home made premium load.
 
Sharps '74 said:
Years ago I read an article in a shotgun publication about a US shooter who took a shooting course through Holland & Holland while on vacation. He learned to shoot "English" style with their guns and ammo.

He busted every bird on the course after he managed the technique and was astounded to learn that he was shooting 12 ga 3/4 oz. loads! The instructor told him that it was only Americans who thought you needed 1-1/8 oz. of shot to break a clay bird.

He became a believer.
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I would have asked for my money back.
 
Falconflyer said:
I think what he's getting at is that the harder shot will give tighter patterns than the softer shot which is beneficial at long range and he's correct however, higher velocity also tends to spread the pattern more which in turn somewhat negates the benefits.
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Agreed.

Some where on a computer I have a antimony content of premium shells and promo shells. You pay for what you get but you can pay less for some promo shells that are pretty darn good. The same can be said with aftermarket chokes I see the difference in shell quality not the choke.

See if I can post it up.
 
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