$200 SVT 40s!

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ricohman said:
Got mine. I picked hand select but I did not get an AVT stock. What I got was an ugly repair where the cutout is supposed to be. I thought all the late marine stocks were AVT? Its nowhere the like what I bought from weimerjack but those are 60+ more.
But I guess this is what you get for $225. I also think paying for hand select is a waste of your cash.

This "repair" is where the second cutout is supposed to be. Why would they fill this area in? Botched cutout?


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You did get an AVT stock. Take a look at the capital A to the left of the brass grommet on the butt. Not sure why they patched in that side of the stock except for the fact the notch wasn't needed anymore(full auto notch). Maybe someone who worked on a lot of repair jobs during refurbishment of the original SVT stocks had a bright idea to patch these up too while enjoying a bottle of vodka lol. I think your rifle looks great any way. I get mine tomorrow with the same kind of stock. Be interesting to see if it has the same repair.
 
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Just got mine, I didn't get the hand select as I wanted a surprise, and it was a surprise indeed. 1943 Tula factory with all matching parts except the mag. She's a smooth operator, can hardly wait to take her out!

It was also packed in cosmoline, as in they decided that every crevice and the paper packaging needed cosmoline to keep that Soviet flavor sealed away, I had to spoon out cosmoline from the front sight post and around the bolt.
 
Rallix said:
Just got mine, I didn't get the hand select as I wanted a surprise, and it was a surprise indeed. 1943 Tula factory with all matching parts except the mag. She's a smooth operator, can hardly wait to take her out!

It was also packed in cosmoline, as in they decided that every crevice and the paper packaging needed cosmoline to keep that Soviet flavor sealed away, I had to spoon out cosmoline from the front sight post and around the bolt.
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Yummy. I heard the Russians loved to spread that stuff on toast in the morning before trudging to the Worker's Paradise factory to hammer out more guns for comrade Ivan.
 
Probably the muzzle was sticking out of the box due to poor packaging or handling. Happened to 2x K98's I received from Lever/CanPar - luckily no damage.

DJdeadlyDALEK said:
I got my package but can't open it till I'm done my shift here at work. I know I have an early muzzle break without opening the box.... ask me how I know
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Rallix said:
Just got mine, I didn't get the hand select as I wanted a surprise, and it was a surprise indeed. 1943 Tula factory with all matching parts except the mag. She's a smooth operator, can hardly wait to take her out!

It was also packed in cosmoline, as in they decided that every crevice and the paper packaging needed cosmoline to keep that Soviet flavor sealed away, I had to spoon out cosmoline from the front sight post and around the bolt.
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Any repairs to the stock?
 
Mine is sitting in the post office. They were shut down today due to weather so I have to wait until after work tomorrow to pick it up. I just took the random selection but I am hoping for a early model muzzle brake. Pics to follow
 
ricohman said:
Got mine. I picked hand select but I did not get an AVT stock. What I got was an ugly repair where the cutout is supposed to be. I thought all the late marine stocks were AVT? Its nowhere the like what I bought from weimerjack but those are 60+ more.
But I guess this is what you get for $225. I also think paying for hand select is a waste of your cash.

This "repair" is where the second cutout is supposed to be. Why would they fill this area in? Botched cutout?
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The bore condition is what matters most, what's it like ?
As for the rifle it looks fine to me, for $225 I think you did well, just one minor flaw. They were bound to run out of AVT stocks with no repairs eventually.
 
lyman said:
The bore condition is what matters most, what's it like ?
As for the rifle it looks fine to me, for $225 I think you did well, just one minor flaw. They were bound to run out of AVT stocks with no repairs eventually.
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Don't get me wrong, I think its still a neat bit of history for $225. I have 3 others and the bores are always frosted but the rifling is sharp. I think it would be best to just go with the $200 option as all hand selected means is the stock with the cutout.
 
ricohman said:
Don't get me wrong, I think its still a neat bit of history for $225. I have 3 others and the bores are always frosted but the rifling is sharp. I think it would be best to just go with the $200 option as all hand selected means is the stock with the cutout.
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What's the bore like ?

The bores are not always frosted.
 
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lyman said:
Does that make his rifle a converted auto ?
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No. The stock itself was probably added during refurb as were all the other pieces of the rifle slapped together willy nilly regardless of the place of manufacture. The barrel might be a 1941 Tula but the other parts could be either Izhevsk or Podolsk thus making pretty much every refurb slightly unique from the others. I know collectors of refurbs like to have different years but that really can only apply to the receiver/barrel and the AVT stock with the brass grommet. Who knows when the rest of the rifle was manufactured. Even the muzzle break is a grey area when people use the terms of early(6 baffle) and late(2 baffle). I have a 1941 Podolsk with a 2 baffle muzzle break bearing the Podolsk logo stamped on the front sight post. Podolsk stopped production in late 1941...
 
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yarmouth said:
Hello Horilka. Another site mentioned that the "Naval" stock was incorrect. Who did use that type of stock and why the brass grommet instead of the swivel? Love to know any info you have. Thanks.
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This type of stock is just a part of improvements and simplifications SVT underwent in 1942. It was made thicker for the reason of reliability and rear sling swivel was replaced with a Mosin Nagant type of escutcheon for the both reasons of simplification and reliability. Other improvements - wider trigger guard, one piece front swivel, 2 ports muzzle brake etc (technically latter is 1941 improvement that went into production in 1942).
I have a theory about "naval stock" name. SVT-40 was intended to replace Mosin Nagant. Thus AVS-36 and then SVT-38. When two former best buddies - Nazis and Commies clashed in 1941 lot of SVT-38 and SVT-40 were lost. Lot of soviet soldiers that had some training surrendered. Nobody wanted to die for Stalin. So Commies enlisted even more men, however they did not care about proper training. Why? Thay had access to huge numbers of human resources, they never stopped for killing millions of their citizens so why value invest in the training of the soldier that easily can be replaced by another poor fellow. So imagine growing army of untrained soldiers mostly former peasants. They were unable to maintain SVT-40 and clean them. It was too hard and too complicated. Rifle was reliable only in the hands of the soldier who cleaned it. Compare this with MN, this thing can shoot after several days of non-cleaning, taken from the sand. It's simple and reliable as hell. Now cost of manufacturing is significantly higher. That is the reason why SVT was shadowed by MN. On the contrary - German soldiers like SVT-40, they had received at least 4-6 month training before going to war. They knew how to deal with such rifles. I know also that all kind of nationalist insurgents fighting both Nazis and Commies (for example from from Ukraine and Baltic states) adored SVT-40 as the most effective semi auto rifle. And they also received minimal trainings. Now why "naval"? The reason is we see a lot of pictures of soviet naval infantry with SVTs. However, those are mostly post 1942 pictures and naval infantry men were more lucky blokes and underwent military trainings. So they were able to handle something more complicated than MN. Thus the theory about "special naval stock" was born. Having said that, there is no official designation for this kind of stock, it's just one of the many improvements, so "naval" is as incorrect as "kovrov".

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If I remember russian correct picture says: "Naval infantry of North fleet. Two infantrymen are armed with SVT-40. Tokarev rifle was kind of complicated weapon. It was better suited for well-trained troops"
 
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ricohman said:
Yeah, great info. Very interesting.
So if I wanted a reasonably correct rifle, then a 1942-43 with a "naval" stock and a 4 port brake would be correct?
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The trigger assembly could be a hodge podge too with the marks of different arsenals. Honestly I don't worry about it. The refurb rifle you get is not one a Russian soldier fought with but a combination of a few rifles that were pieced together after the war and put in storage for WW3. The pieces of each rifle saw combat without a doubt. The exception might be the stock.
 
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