$200 SVT 40s!

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Horilka said:
How are they different? I think I saw thick stocks made before 1944, as they did not have nor avt cuts, not MN sling escutcheons. So I assume sick stock was part of 1942 improvements. I cannot be sure 100%, I sold those rifles many years ago back in Ukraine. I was not really interested in the features back then. I assumed escutcheons were also part of 1942 improvements. Do you have different information?
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I have a 41 and a 42 with the 'navy' stocks, one AVT one not. They're a Kovrov and an Izzy. But who's to say they didn't swap the stocks around when they were readied for storage?
 
kennymo said:
I have a 41 and a 42 with the 'navy' stocks, one AVT one not. They're a Kovrov and an Izzy. But who's to say they didn't swap the stocks around when they were readied for storage?
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Indeed they changed stocks during post war refurb. Now, it's not surprise for me some so called "navy" don't have AVT cuts. Could you please check if those stocks are thick or thin in grip?
 
SparkOfLight said:
Well, you see, I am looking for the package deal...I might throw in a handmade Weeping Angel to top your Christmas Tree to spice up the deal a wee bit. I could always make two of them when I create mine :)
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I'd personally find that very, very cool but one of my daughter's is absolutely terrified of the Weeping Angels and would scream for days if she saw that
 
DJdeadlyDALEK said:
I'd personally find that very, very cool but one of my daughter's is absolutely terrified of the Weeping Angels and would scream for days if she saw that
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I can understand her fears. Don't blink. Whatever she does, don't blink. Ever. ;)
Sent you a PM, just in case you decide to make one.

Outside of that, I can't think of much to trade you for that rifle....darn!
 
So, I received mine today. Can someone help me and let me know where i should be looking for to see If the numbers match and what exactly I should be looking for

Thanks
 
Receiver ring left side, bolt carrier handle, bolt and stock. They won't match or will be forced-matched, it's refurb, so don't worry :) Enjoy shooting it.
 
How many months did they produce the 1942 Izzy? (I don't know if I have one - will need to check next week).

I know I need a Tula 1945 (surprise...surprise) and a 1940 Kovrov (they should exist, but I have never seen an example...kind of like the one known 1936 BSW K98)
 
agentcq said:
1940 Kovrov (they should exist, but I have never seen an example...kind of like the one known 1936 BSW K98)
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They do exist, I had or still have one in Ukraine, don't remember if it is one of those I left with my friends or one of those that I sold.. Let me see if I have pic. No.. don't have pics.
 
Got mine today didn't go for the hand select.
looks like a 1941 Tula definitely a refurb it has the later 4 port muzzle brake and 2 stock repairs. Pictures to follow.
Yeah its caked in cosmo
 
Got mine yesterday from the post office. She is a 1941 Tula, six port muzzle brake, AVT stock with no repairs and a minimally frosted bore that shines and has great rifling. I picked hand select and the only thing I didn't get was I asked for no AVT stock (wanted it original as possible early-war). I might try and look for a early war stock. Will get pics up later.
 
Horilka said:
How are they different? I think I saw thick stocks made before 1944, as they did not have nor avt cuts, not MN sling escutcheons. So I assume sick stock was part of 1942 improvements. I cannot be sure 100%, I sold those rifles many years ago back in Ukraine. I was not really interested in the features back then. I assumed escutcheons were also part of 1942 improvements. Do you have different information?
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AVT cuts at regualar stocks appeared in 1942. First month of AVT production - June 1942. Production of regular SVT's was stopped in July, 1942.
All later rifles were AVT's.
SNiper SVT's were produced untill October, 1942.
MN sling escutcheons - were introduced at Podolsk rifles in 1941. But in october, 1941 Podolsk stoped production.
Those stocks do not have AVT cuts.
1942-1943 Mednogorsk stocks have bottom swiwel, and AVT cuts, and they were thicker. In 1944 new ТУ Ложе АВТ were introduced.
You will not find AVT stock with MN sling escutcheons that is dated earlier than 1944. It will be undated (refurbed, with removed stamp) or 1944\1945 dated.
Soon will be published book of russian SVT researcher, there will be picture, archive documents related to this area

DJdeadlyDALEK said:
If anyone has a 1942 dated Izzy or a 1940 dated Izzy that they'd like to trade, PM me.....or a 1940 dated Kovrov or 1945 dated Tula of which I would throw you this rifle and cash :)
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You will not find 1942 dated Izhevsk rifle. Izhevsk stopped production in October, 1941.
 
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Ratnik said:
AVT cuts appeared in 1942. First month of AVT production - June 1942. Production of regular SVT's was stopped in July, 1942.
All later rifles were AVT's.
SNiper SVT's were produced untill October, 1942.
MN sling escutcheons - were introduced at Podolsk rifles in 1941. But in october, 1941 Podolsk stoped production.
Those stocks do not have AVT cuts.
1942-1943 Mednoforst stock have bottom swiwel, and AVT cuts, and they were thicker. In 1944 new ТУ Ложе АВТ were introduced.
You will not find AVT stock with MN sling escutcheons that is dated earlier than 1944. It will be undated (refurbed, with removed stamp) or 1944\1945 dated.


You will not find 1942 dated rifle. Izhevsk stopped production in October, 1941.
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Wrong got a 1944 izhevsk.
 
Mr_jonny said:
Wrong got a 1944 izhevsk.
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It is 1941 issued rifle.
I saw 1652 dated TT33 or 1993 PPSH-41.
Icorrect last digit.
Izhevsk stopped production in October, 1941. 82 riflse were produced.
Don't want to argue, but belive, this information is correct. I track serial number of all SVT's\AVT's. I was able to find conformity of letter prefixes in serial number to production month for all years for all factories. Archive documents, serial numbers, memories of workers, GKO production plans, confirm information above
 
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Ratnik said:
It is 1941 issued rifle.
I saw 1652 dated TT33 or 1993 PPSH-41.
Icorrect last digit.
Izhevsk stopped production in October, 1941. 82 riflse were produced.
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I will try to show you the picture,( when I get time). I have already shown this to a couple people and they agree, but hey if it is misdated it must be rare!
 
Mr_jonny said:
I will try to show you the picture,( when I get time). I have already shown this to a couple people and they agree, but hey if it is misdated it must be rare!
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I saw this picture. As I said, I don't won't to argue and I already posted information that I have
Considering from not very clear stamp, it looks that first letter in prefix can be И, К, Л

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