$200 SVT 40s!

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Ratnik said:
1942-1943 Mednogorsk stocks have bottom swiwel, and AVT cuts, and they were thicker.
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Thank you for clarification, Oleksandr. One thing though is not clear - are you saying there were no thick stocks without AVT cuts?

About the book - I saw a post of Nick on GB, he's kind of disappointed, no production data. I'm still waiting for my copy of the book.
 
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I saw this picture. As I said, I don't won't to argue and I already posted information that I have
Considering from not very clear stamp, it looks that first letter in prefix can be И, К, Л

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Just a question than ( not arguing) did izhevsk produce the avt 40? It would answer a couple questions I have. The svt picture you found also has a wide izhevsk triger guard. No I will not say what the letters are, my property and with out my consent I will not give out the info.
 
Mr_jonny said:
No I will not say what the letters are, my property and with out my consent I will not give out the info.
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Wow, it's not like you've been asked for full serial. Even full serial is not a biggy, just a privacy concern. Information Ratnik provides is based on his and others' researches as well on the community feedback. So you want to get something without sharing something? Doesn't it look unfair?
 
Mr_jonny said:
Just a question than ( not arguing) did izhevsk produce the avt 40? It would answer a couple questions I have. The svt picture you found also has a wide izhevsk triger guard. No I will not say what the letters are, my property and with out my consent I will not give out the info.
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No, Izhevsk did not produce AVT's. Wide trigger quard is not equal to AVT trigger guard. It's just production simplification.
Can you post photo of this Izhevsk marked wide trigger guard? I read about them, but currently don't saw at least one, they are rare

Horilka said:
Thank you for clarification, Oleksandr. One thing though is not clear - are you saying there were no thick stocks without AVT cuts?

About the book - I saw a post of Nick on GB, he's kind of disappointed, no production data. I'm still waiting for my copy of the book.
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No, this is another book. It will be much more interesting for collectors. Currently it is not published
But in book that you mention, there is a production data for Izhevsk SVT's, since beginning of mass production in August, 1940, untill the end in October, 1941.
Besides, there mentioned document, according to which production of SVT's in Izhevsk was stopped - order #383 cc from 20.08.1941 by Ustinov D.F.
And for Tula there is production data for July 1940-December 1940, and July,August, September 1941
You are correct, SVT thick stock exist, I missed it in my post. Not sure when their production was started, but it was definetely stopped after beginning of AVT production. Even late Sniper SVT's were issued in AVT stocks - there was no sence to produce special stocks for them.
 
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Sure I will make sure to post the trigger for you. It just makes me wonder why the widder trigger . As said about serials on the chance I sell something , I do not keep pictures of the rifle . It is the persons property, not mine. If you need anymore info on the rifle just send me a pm and I will try to get you the info.
 
DJdeadlyDALEK said:
I don't know what the hell my $25 "hand select" fee got me. I asked for a 1942 Izzy and if they didn't have one, 1940 Izzy. They send me a 1941 Izzy of which I already have 2. I asked, very nicely, fir no Arsenal repairs. Got one with at least one I've noticed so far. I know people are going to say "Don't b!tch, it was only $225!" BUT here's the thing: I wouldn't have spent $225 knowing they were going to ignore my requests.
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Hmmm... I wonder if the person filling the order makes the difference. I say this because when I called in with my credit card info and confirmed my "hand select" I received a phone call about a half hour later from the same guy I spoke with telling me what they found and he gave me an option to accept it or they would keep looking.
 
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Very interesting. I had read that Izzy stopped production in early 1942 in order to re-start production on the 91/30 (http://mosinnagant.net/ussr/svt401.asp), but it looks like the evidence you have may be stronger. Which makes sense as I think I may have a 1941 Izzy Nagant.

As per Kovrov (incorrect term I know), what is the significance between the wide/narrow oval receiver markings? I have one of each, but I have found the narrow to be much more common. I have only seen two or three wide, but at least a dozen narrow.

P.S. My crate arrived today. Paid on Friday, shipped on Monday and arrived at the business address today. I just need to pick it up tomorrow (but I won't have time to sort till next week - serious deer hunting to do first). Too bad the business accidentally phoned my future ex-wife to inform me of the delivery. I better sort out my contact info....yikes!



Ratnik said:
No, Izhevsk did not produce AVT's. Wide trigger quard is not equal to AVT trigger guard. It's just production simplification.
Can you post photo of this Izhevsk marked wide trigger guard? I read about them, but currently don't saw at least one, they are rare



No, this is another book. It will be much more interesting for collectors. Currently it is not published
But in book that you mention, there is a production data for Izhevsk SVT's, since beginning of mass production in August, 1940, untill the end in October, 1941.
Besides, there mentioned document, according to which production of SVT's in Izhevsk was stopped - order #383 cc from 20.08.1941 by Ustinov D.F.
And for Tula there is production data for July 1940-December 1940, and July,August, September 1941
You are correct, SVT thick stock exist, I missed it in my post. Not sure when their production was started, but it was definetely stopped after beginning of AVT production. Even late Sniper SVT's were issued in AVT stocks - there was no sence to produce special stocks for them.
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DJdeadlyDALEK I finally found out why my computer did not like my camera, so here's the pics.

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The stock is not refinished or repaired. It looks like the stock belongs with the rifle.

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No date on the stock.

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The bore looks as new, I was lucky with that.
 
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I'm sticking with what I thought before - that 1941 is a refurb (or did you say she's a '40?) with an AVT stock thrown on and those #'s punched in to the stock then. No year is punched into the other side of the stock, either. It's a very nice looking SVT, though, I just don't think you have the "original" stock on her, bud
 
Im sure the stock has not been refurbished, although I have no doubt that the rest of the rifle has. The rifle with the scope notch has smaller lettering (like the one you got ) and a 1944 stock, whereas the lettering on this one looks original. I think this rifle has a used stock, but the one with the 44 stock is unused.
 
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I have a 1942 Tula that has a 1944 AVT stock on her that has the numbers stamped into the side of the wood, exact same numbers stamped into the reciever and we know that one doesn't have the stock it was issued with. I'll post pics
 
agentcq said:
As per Kovrov (incorrect term I know), what is the significance between the wide/narrow oval receiver markings? I have one of each, but I have found the narrow to be much more common. I have only seen two or three wide, but at least a dozen narrow.
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Wide oval is less common, you're right. And it's late Podolsk. It will be published in the book Ratnik mentioned. I exchanged messages with author and he was able to help me with the same question you have.

P.S. we turned promo sale thread into SVT discussion. Lever Arms should be happy :)
 
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