I was at the Cooper booth at SHOTSHOW to see where my gun was? The nice lady didn'y know but would inquire, 2 days later walked by the booth and shee grabbed me out of the isle telling me my gun would shipp next week to Canada, great people! About the Stainless Coppers, I am not a follower of this model, but I must say they felt like glass when opened and held true, the weight was just right for a hunting rifle, and if you are contmplating a stainless gun, this here is the ticket! I also handles a syn stocked 8mm Mag they had on hand, a reall stopper that would look great in anyones gunsafe! Cheers Dale Z!