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In order to ensure that the range is available, and to try and eliminate the risk of being rescheduled by DND, the intent is to hold the 3rd annual Eastern Championships over the Canada Day long weekend (June 29-July 1st) next year at Connaught. While details are very preliminary at this early stage there has been discussion of running 2.5 days, and finishing up on Monday, July 1st at lunch so that folks can make their way home.

We certainly felt the absence of shooters from the Maritimes this year, and we are hoping by getting the date out early enough it will give everybody from down east time enough time to plan for it. I'm not sure how fixed the date for the Westerns is but I think it would be great to stagger the dates so that those who might be so inclined could participate in both.

Barry Price will again be the lead organizer for the Easterns, but he's asked for some assistance to try and promote next year's event. Since Barry is rarely on here he's asked me to try and build interest within the CGN community, and try and make next years' ECFRC the best yet.

If you've got any thoughts on things that could be done better/differently to make this event a must on your shooting calendars please let us know, either on this thread or by PM.

More details to follow as they become available.

Cheers,

Scott
 
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I really missed being there this year, and I will do what I can to avoid that next year. Setting the date early is a huge help. Gives me time to handcuff a few other Maritimers to the truck too...

Thanks for helping out Scott.
 
Too bad the westerns are going to be the same weekend.

It's unfortunate that someone from your organizing committee did not take the time or have the courtesy to to make a phone call out west before trying to beat us to announce a date and thereby try to force us to change our plans.
 
I'm sorry you feel that's what we're trying to do; the decision was basically made for us if we wanted to ensure that we didn't have a repeat of what happened this year where we got bumped by the military after many people had already made plans to attend.

Because there has been a standing TR match at Connaught for the last 100 years or so on the Canada Day weekend it was really the only date that would offer anything close to a guarantee for us.

I will certainly let Barry know that we may have slighted some folks by not communicating our intentions first. I'm sure the organizers of the Westerns reading this will appreciate the challenges Barry has had to manage in trying to book a military range for this event, and will hopefully understand that there was no offense intended.
 
How about holding the ECFCC on the May 24 weekend? With cooperation from the ORA it could be held at Camp Borden, date negotioable. The WCFCC has always been held on the July 1st, and is looking forward to number 4 in Manitoba next year...same date. I don't believe the WCFCC organizers are very flexible on this point. This way some of the more travel-prone shooters can easily make more events.
 
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I second Terry's suggestion to do it on the May 24 weekend. There are shooters from out west who will come to the ECFCC, myself included, but not if it conflicts with the WCFCC. All the conflict does is shrink the size of both matches.

As a second thought, how about taking the ECFCC on the road away from Connaught?
There are already more than enough events at Connaught including the impending nationals. I'd like a reason to ravel somewhere else in Eastern Canada. What's wrong with the ranges in PEI, Gagetown, NB or points elsewhere?
 
Terry,

I will pass on your suggestion to Barry. I'm not sure what the response will be considering the history behind the Victoria Day Match but it can't hurt.

I think it would be fair to say that those are really the only potential dates that minimize the risk of getting bumped, but it may just turn out that unfortunately both events need to take place concurrently again next year.

What may help would be to try and get a sense of how many shooters would be interested in doing both if the dates allowed. I'm assuming you'd be one, but how many more are there?

Scott
 
As much as I would like to shoot both, the reality is that those of us in the East have to shoot on Military ranges, and the Military does not take our preferences and convenience into accord. I agree with keeping the match on a traditional day where there is little chance it will get bumped. I am sorry Terry, but I have little faith that we would ever get a secure date from Borden. Gagetown anyone???? :) :stirthepot2:
 
On the one hand, having the Eastern and Western regional matches fired on the same weekend, and the Canada Day weekend at that, is kinda neat. The downside of course is then it is not possible for anybody to shoot both. Then again, while it is nice to travel to a "far away" match, these are *regional* matches, which are intended mostly for the benefit of the shooters in those regions; while it is nice to have a few out-of-region people show up, they should be a secondary consideration.

PEI is a gorgeous range, the only "problem" with it is that it is only 600 yards.

Nova Scotia has an 800m range. Winds there aren't terribly strong, but they can be quite tricky (in a frustrating, this-is-not-readable sense).

CFB Gagetown has a 900m range. It's a more straightforward range than NS; it too doesn't usually have particularly strong conditions.

CFB Valcartier (Quebec City) has a 600 yard range. Efforts are being made to conduct shooting at 1000 yards in a field firing range using e-targets, perhaps in 2014+ this might be a place to run an Eastern F-Class Regional.

Finally there is Connaught (900m) and Borden (1000y).

Probably the single biggest factor in where a match should be held, much more significant than range facilities and dates, is where you're going to find somebody willing to step up and take on the job of Match Organizer. One of the reasons these Eastern and Western F-Class Regionals have been such good matches is that the organizers we have been fortunate to have step up, have more or less made it their personal shooting project for that year - thanks guys, your efforts really are appreciated.
 
We more than likely will not be able to do a shoot on the May 24 weekend. The current shoot is a combined competition with TR and F class. The TR would still want to shoot 300m on out. Since we are assigned only ONE range, we would not be able to shoot longs when the TR shoot short. Even if we shoot Charley left, we need 10 target space's for every 100 meters they are ahead of us and there are not enough target spaces to accomodate this.

As for another venue, this years shoot was to be in the eastern provinces, but nothing happened. If the NCRRA had not stepped up, there would not have been an Eastern Regionals. If another club wants to run it next year please let me know as I don't want to leave it to the last minute like this year.

We cannot count on any other date for Connaught as we could be "bumped" at any time. The army unit that bumped us from our original date didn't even show up that weekend to use the range!
 
Although it would be nice (in a perfect world) to accommodate everyones wishes,the reality faced with, is not that simple.

As for location of this match I cannot think of any better eastern range to host it.
This is a world class range with facilities second to none. Barracks and meal tickets make this a lot more affordable proposition.

As to the timing/date of choice,I'm sure it did not even enter into the decision, about creating a conflict with the Westerns.
It's just a great date with the long weekend and in all likelihood,a date which would likely not be preempted by the DOD.(as originally happened this year)
I think that Daniel makes a point in that being Regionals,it's more to draw from regional shooters. Although it would be nice to do both,we have a National level match to consider.
I would like to see all those competitors from both Eastern and Western Regionals attend The Canadian F Class Nationals.
Just my thoughts
Gord O
I applaud Barry and his associates who stepped forward for a second year to make this happen this year, and who is taking on this task for a third.Well Done!
 
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Although it would be nice (in a perfect world) to accommodate everyones wishes,the reality faced with, is not that simple.

As for location of this match I cannot think of any better eastern range to host it.
This is a world class range with facilities second to none. Barracks and meal tickets make this a lot more affordable proposition.

As to the timing/date of choice,I'm sure it did not even enter into the decision, about creating a conflict with the Westerns.
It's just a great date with the long weekend and in all likelihood,a date which would likely not be preempted by the DOD.(as originally happened this year)
I think that Daniel makes a point in that being Regionals,it's more to draw from regional shooters. Although it would be nice to do both,we have a National level match to consider.
I would like to see all those competitors from both Eastern and Western Regionals attend The Canadian F Class Nationals.
Just my thoughts
Gord O
I applaud Barry and his associates who stepped forward for a second year to make this happen this year, and who is taking on this task for a third.Well Done!
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Strongly agree Gord - looking at major match results, typically half of the shooters are local and don't want to travel (yet), tho' we're starting to see more and more shooters start to cross to the next province for shoots as well, which is great!

I would like to see an Eastern held at Bull Meadows in Nova Scotia some time - great bunch of folk out there and a challenging (non-DND) range to 800m.
 
Just wanted to let you all know that we've launched a new website to keep everyone informed of the latest developments for the 2013 Easterns. Dates ARE NOT confirmed yet, but as Barry stated it will very likely need to be June 29-30th, 2013.

The website is http://www.easternfclass.ca

Thanks very much to Sean at North Shore Barrels, and Bryan & Jennifer Litz at Applied Ballistics LLC for their sponsorship commitments!

Good luck to everyone heading to Nationals in a couple of weeks; I'm looking forward to seeing you there.

Cheers,

Scott
 
Confirmed Dates - June 28th -July 1st, 2013

It looks like we have finally been able to get the dates confirmed for this year's event at Connaught; thanks to the folks at NCRRA for their help. Barring any unforseen changes the schedule and course of fire for this year's championships will be as follows:

Friday June 28th PM: Check In, Rifle Weigh In, and Poker shoot at 900m
Saturday June 29th: AM 15+2 @ 700m, 15+2 @ 800m PM 15+2 @ 900m, 15+2 @ 900m
Sunday June 30th: AM 15+2 @ 700m, 15+2 @ 800m PM 15+2 @ 900m, 15+2 @ 900m
Monday July 1st AM: Team shoot @ 900m, 15+2 @ 900m, 15+2 @ 900m

Min. Rounds required: 187 (including team match)

We should have the entry form up on the website http://www.easternfclass.ca later this week, and we will continue to post additional details here as they come available.

If you've got any questions please feel free to post them here or send me a PM.

Thank you again to all the businesses who have already pledged their support for this event. On behalf of the organizers we encourage you to check out the list of sponsors on the website and to support those who support us.

Scott
 
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