2014 Shot Show: Rossi Circult Judge Revoler Carbine

P0WERWAGON said:
they are coming to canada..... please read the above, the RCMP have declared them all pistols. regardless of barrel or stock length
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The only reason these were classed as pistols is because under that wood stalk is a metal frame the same as the pistol and the barrel can be swapped out for one of pistol length. If they were to make a production model for the Canadian market (like Obokash suggested) that had a different frame then they would be a different firearm and get a different FRT and could be non-res. It really wouldn't need much change, just remove the pistol grip handle part of the frame and replace it with a tab of some sort that the the stock could bolt on to.
 
RageStation said:
The browning buckmarks carbine frame is different from its pistol brother due to the stocm being intergrated into the frame itself. Where as the rossi's frame is unchanged and the carbine stock attaches the same method as regular pistol grips for that frame do. This is the understanding I have as to why the Rossi got different treatment from the buckmark.
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Just curious, what's the mag cap on those Rem carbines? I heard of a revolving shotgun with a 6-round cylinder at SHOT and was wondering if there's precedent set for it to be able to have all 6.
 
wgamble89 said:
The only reason these were classed as pistols is because under that wood stalk is a metal frame the same as the pistol and the barrel can be swapped out for one of pistol length. If they were to make a production model for the Canadian market (like Obokash suggested) that had a different frame then they would be a different firearm and get a different FRT and could be non-res. It really wouldn't need much change, just remove the pistol grip handle part of the frame and replace it with a tab of some sort that the the stock could bolt on to.
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How is this any different than the TC Contender/Encore pistol/carbine variants? Canadian gun laws and classifications are juvenile at best.
 
To complete the picture of lunacy, just buy a Rossi Ranch Hand and take a look at the box. Mine came with "THIS IS A HANDGUN" slathered in giant letters across a couple of sides.

This is apparently an easy way for Rossi to avoid having it classed as a SBR (Short Barrel Rifle) in the U.S. Marketing it as a handgun makes that problem go away.

Wouldn't it be nice if some their legal loopholes actually lined up with some of ours once in a while?
 
Gunslinger said:
Because it's easier to make paper criminals than catch the real ones. It's like what half of all gov. Employees do, make work, this is what we pay our hard earned taxes for.
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Make work? Like how they randomly decided that .22cal is suddenly too big for fox hunting on PEI, and now they're thinking of deciding to remove the calibre limitation now, that nobody wanted in the first place.
Or how about the DFO in Ottawa having no one working outside the office, yet still deciding that fishermen suddenly needed to paint boat registration numbers on their buoys.
Or the PEI government suddenly deciding that every islander needs to replace their licenses plates for $5 a piece because apparently some cops were too blind to read the existing license plates.

Ugh.
 
Beautiful guns, sadly and ignorantly classified. That .410 in the first picture almost looks case hardened in the light.
 
Neat guns. Too bad about the restricted part. What I don't get about this thread though is, well... Arent these old news? I thought these have been available here for at least a year already?
 
Obokash said:
Why can't one of our importer talk to Rossi to make a line of production for Canadian market only? I know its not a huge market like USA but at least they will have good business here :) at least from us
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One of the 4 Rossi Canadian Importers here - we are not a huge market like USA - we are actually a minuscule market compared to the USA and they haven't been able to keep up to supply the US market in the past 5 years. Simple business, sorry.
 
Freedom Ventures said:
One of the 4 Rossi Canadian Importers here - we are not a huge market like USA - we are actually a minuscule market compared to the USA and they haven't been able to keep up to supply the US market in the past 5 years. Simple business, sorry.
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That's what I thought so too. Thanks for confirming that. May be one day some miracle will happen.
 
What am I missing? My Armi Jager in .357 is non-restricted and I can't see a lot of difference between them.

I've owned this for about five years now.
 
dorm said:
What am I missing? My Armi Jager in .357 is non-restricted and I can't see a lot of difference between them.

I've owned this for about five years now.
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You should sell that to me before the RCMP change their mind about its classification, wouldn't want it to be a hassle for you after all.
 
They are considered restricted because it is still considered a revolver(handgun).

They should really re-consider this one for NR status, especially with the 18.5" barrel.
 
So if the rifle would of came out first. Would it of been non restricted? and when the Pistol came out would it of caused the rifle to become restricted or would it of been considered a short barreled rifle?
 
Freedom Ventures said:
DING DING DING - WE HAVE A WINNER!!!

We've been importing them for 2 years. CFC's exact phrasign was "once a pistol, always a pistol - gotta change the criminal code to make it different."
Sorry folks.
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But it was designed and built as a rifle... Just like the browning buckmark... The only reasoning I could see for being restricted is having a six shot cylinder, but I believe it is 5.
 
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