20in 30-06 bullet weight

WL, for a couple of years I used a Husqvarna 30-06 Featherweight rifle for backup while guiding. The factory 20 1/2 inch barrel had a 1:12 twist, and would stabilize any bullet weight I used in it, including my handloads with the old Barnes 250 gr round nose originals.

Ted
 
WL, for a couple of years I used a Husqvarna 30-06 Featherweight rifle for backup while guiding. The factory 20 1/2 inch barrel had a 1:12 twist, and would stabilize any bullet weight I used in it, including my handloads with the old Barnes 250 gr round nose originals.

Ted

:)Your rifle sounds to be very similar to the one that was handed down to me when Dad passed away. A Husqvarna model 4000 light weight that has VERY nice wood. Quite likely I'll stay with the Barnes 180gr TTSX BT and IMR 4064 loads I'm presently using in it. Point of curiosity though, are those 250gr Barnes Original RN bullets still available?? If so, where and any load data to share??
 
Rhys, I would be inclined to use a decent 165 grain bullet to cover your needs.
A load of H4350, IMR4350, H414 or W760 should fill the bill out. Dave.
 
WL, for a couple of years I used a Husqvarna 30-06 Featherweight rifle for backup while guiding. The factory 20 1/2 inch barrel had a 1:12 twist, and would stabilize any bullet weight I used in it, including my handloads with the old Barnes 250 gr round nose originals.

I bought three of the light Husqvarna rifles, new with the hang tags, back in the early 70's from an old gunsmith way over in Nelson BC. who had lost the battle with Alzheimers. I even kept the hang tags and other stuff that was with them. The one 30/06 grouped pretty well - as long as the bullet had a plain base like the Nosler Partition. Anything with a solid base like the Barnes TSX and accuracy got mediocre in a big hurry. I slugged the chamber/barrel and found groove diameter was .311". I think barrel dimensions were the issue, not barrel twist.

Bill Leeper put a Ron Smith barrel on it and when he was done it was a 30 Newton. Watched him shoot a four shot cloverleaf at the 200 silhouette stands at the silhouette range with the 165 gr. TSX - shooting off his elbows on the bench - testing his work out. Groups fine with just about anything I put in it.

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If the rifle is used many for deer a 150gr quality bullet has excellent down range energy capable of 350yd kills .
It will work fine on moose and elk out to 250-300 yds . Likely further but that’s max for me .
In this set up heavier billets won’t have more energy in some cases maybe even less G to hey will create a larger wound channel at closer ranges
 
so many have said same load should work, all things equal... im thinkin maybe some shift in poi with a stiffer barrel! but time will tell.

in this case ive got plenty of loaded 130gr ppsn, a box of 150gr loaded and a good few 180s left.

with this all in mind, i will shoot the 180s first, then try the 150s- an save me 130s for a rainy day-

Thanks alot for the infos and sorry for the spam
 
Lucky to get 2650 fps in the 20" barrel; same load in my 24" barreled Cooper does 3000.

Thank you ! I get 2,675 fps out of my original Remington 700 BDL 18½" barrel with 60 grains of W-W 760 and Nosler 150 Ballistic Tips. That barrel has been set back once at the breech end and cut twice at the muzzle end . Over 6,000 rounds now. I somehow lost count at 6,000 rounds.
 
.....The one 30/06 grouped pretty well - as long as the bullet had a plain base like the Nosler Partition. Anything with a solid base like the Barnes TSX and accuracy got mediocre in a big hurry. I slugged the chamber/barrel and found groove diameter was .311". I think barrel dimensions were the issue, not barrel twist......

Wonder if it was an original barrel, or perhaps had been rebarreled? I ask, because to the best of my knowledge, Husqvarna never chambered anything that used .311 groove diameter barrels.

Regardless, I'll bet you are quite pleased with your Husqvarna Newton. Great cartridge!

Ted
 
i havn heard on my barrel, i emailed today...... thought it wouldnt take so long to trim n flute :D but perhaps has a line up of them... i dk.
i just want my shorter 30-06 back , i took the 35 whelen Ruger out yesterday.... LAst hoorah LOL thing weighs 4 tonne
 
anybody try using reloader 26 in any loads. with ruger #1 20" imr 4350 and hornady 180 get 2623fps, cz with 23" brl get 2725 same load.
 
Wonder if it was an original barrel, or perhaps had been rebarreled? I ask, because to the best of my knowledge, Husqvarna never chambered anything that used .311 groove diameter barrels.

No... original barrel on it; same as when I bought it and two other Huskies new in the early 70's from a gunsmith/gun store owner in Nelson BC who had fallen into dementia; I was told his wife was selling off all the stock as part of closing up the business so I made the journey there in hopes of finding a new Husky. I would have liked to have known him and that shop before then: there were brand new drillings and quite an assortment of other interesting European rifles up in the attic/store room. I wasn't all that into guns other than the best tool for mountain hunting at the time, so I didn't appreciate what a collection of unique rifles that he had been dealing in. Probably would have dropped more cash there than I did - his wife knew very, very well what each of those rifles were worth, and she probably got the price she expected for every one of the firearms she was selling.

I figured out the issue with the barrel when I was looking for a lighter, flatter shooting bullet specifically for a self guided muley hunt my brothers and I were planning for the US. At the same time I had decided that the Barnes X bullets were the cat's ass when I tried them as a substitute for the Bitteroot bullets in my Husqvarna 358 Norma Magnum. Up until then I had been exclusively loading the 165 grain Partition in the 30/06 as an all around choice for everything from moose and elk to bighorns and whitetails. They grouped well enough for hunting, never anything spectacular, a little under 1.5 MOA after lots of handload tuning and lots of Partitions into the backstop at the range. When I started trying to find a 150 boat tail for a flat shooting load for the mule deer hunt, I couldn't find anything that would even do two MOA. I started wondering if maybe I had a barrel that needed a bullet that would obdurate to the bore as best possible, and that led to slugging the bore.

When I mic'd my slug and found a groove diameter of .311", I figured that's why the Partitions did as well as they did, and why anything with a solid base performed so lousy. Whether I was right or wrong in my speculation about the groove size, that led to me driving out to see Bill Leeper and whine about my oversize barrel limiting my options with that particular Husky. And that ultimately led to the 30 Newton chambering as Bill was at the beginning of being on a Newton kick and having purchased a 30 and 35 Newton reamer. And there was new Newton brass available... and I had lapsed into a condition where old/historical big game rifles and chamberings appealed to me. The 30 Newton barrel went on, Bill said he'd bob the barrel length he'd originally put on it if I didn't like it, and I've never touched it since seeing how it grouped and how it felt in the hands while out hunting.

I have since then come up with a rule of thumb that most shooters and reloaders should NEVER look at their rifles' bores with a borescope, nor slug the barrels to check the actual dimensions... almost as bad as when chronographs became affordable for everybody! It's emotionally crushing many times...

Regardless, I'll bet you are quite pleased with your Husqvarna Newton. Great cartridge!

Yep; right on both counts. You have to be honest and say that the 30 Newton won't do a single thing that a 300 Win Mag (or a 308 Norma Mag) won't do in the same action length. Same bullets at the same velocities - but you can be absolutely certain that there's little to no chance anybody else you bump into also has one. Watching other guys eyeballing the rifle and the cartridges laying on the bench to be used to shoot a group can be both amusing and distracting when they finally ask their questions.

But I am pleased with my little featherweight Nordic mountain rifle. The magic in the caliber is it's age, it's history in cartridge development, and being one of the original magnums - minus a superfluous belt that lends nothing to the cause. All wrapped up in a classy little working man's rifle, which is what the Husky imports into Canada were intended to be for.

It didn't hurt that at some point before that, I'd followed my brother in law on one of his Saturday obsessions with garage sales and found a really old Speer reloading manual that came with five boxes of new Speer brass for a caliber that most people had never heard of. But I had: $20, all in. Another case of buying the ammunition/components before you have the rifle to use them in. Since then I've bought another couple of hundred of the Jamison 30 Newton cases. Far more than I'll ever need in whatever time I have left on this planet, but whoever buys the rifle from my estate should be set up with enough cases to keep them chasing game in the mountains for their lifetime as well.





 
Great rifle and a really neat chambering. I bet that thing will wake you up in the morning with that plastic butt plate!
 
Great rifle and a really neat chambering. I bet that thing will wake you up in the morning with that plastic butt plate!

Still has the Husqvarna logo buttplate, yep. I really don't notice the recoil much at all, especially when shooting game.

That might just be because years of shooting the featherweight Husqvarna 358 Norma Magnum made recoil pretty relative. Now THAT rifle gets your attention in a hurry if you aren't paying attention and firmed up when you pull the trigger. The only scope bite I ever got, I forgot which Husky I had in my hands while trying to get a shot at a whitetail buck through brush in a logging show. I ended up kind of bending forward and down at the waist so I could site through a lane below the branches and above the brush on the ground.

That was a memorable life event when that 250 grainer got launched. And I think the cut above my eye bled nearly as much as the deer did. My younger brothers got much amusement out of that. My Dad who thought anything other than a 30/06 was just a passing hunting fad just shook his head and asked me if I'd remembered to bring the heart home for supper the next day.
 
250 grain Barnes original in short barrels

WL, for a couple of years I used a Husqvarna 30-06 Featherweight rifle for backup while guiding. The factory 20 1/2 inch barrel had a 1:12 twist, and would stabilize any bullet weight I used in it, including my handloads with the old Barnes 250 gr round nose originals.

Ted, I also developed a load for those 250 grain Barnes bullets, also in a Husqvarna 30-06 Husky, that stabilized and grouped good enough to work as a bear wrench. I presume you had a similar reason for the 250 grain Barnes in your rifle? My Husky is now a 30 Newton, but it still retains the original hard Bakelite buttplate; no recoil pad. Those 250 gr. Barnes loads really got your attention shooting that light little rifle with a solid buttplate off the bench.

Point of curiosity though, are those 250gr Barnes Original RN bullets still available?? If so, where and any load data to share??

No, they're long gone. At best you might find some in an estate sale. I haven't heard of anybody making anything similar lately (but I haven't been looking, either).

I can give you the reloading data Jack O'Connor sent me in the early 1970's for the 250 grain Barnes in a 22" barrel, however:

 
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