210 gr. berger vld hunting.

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Hi I am looking for load data for some 210 gr. Berger vld. I don't have a 210 gr. Bullet in any of my manuals and wondering what the charges are min and max for a 3006. I am using H4350 powder new starline brass. Win primers and also got match primers. if someone can photo copy a page of this weight of bullet it would be greatly appreciated. If not just the data would be acceptable. And also has anyone had any luck with these bullets out hunting and do they expand good? Thank you ken.
 
I emailed Berger and I received a PDF file of loads for a 300Rem Ultra using their 210 grain hunting bullets. I'm sure they will have the data for your 30/06. What is the twist on your barrel? Let us know if they shoot OK or if they keyhole?
 
The barrel is a standard 1in10 twist. I emailed berger on tuesday and no reply back from them either yet. And ill be posting some pictures up when I get some load data. I also have some 190 gr. Also to test out I got them loaded up already. :)
Gun5tuff said:
I emailed Berger and I received a PDF file of loads for a 300Rem Ultra using their 210 grain hunting bullets. I'm sure they will have the data for your 30/06. What is the twist on your barrel? Let us know if they shoot OK or if they keyhole?
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Gun5tuff said:
I emailed Berger and I received a PDF file of loads for a 300Rem Ultra using their 210 grain hunting bullets. I'm sure they will have the data for your 30/06. What is the twist on your barrel? Let us know if they shoot OK or if they keyhole?
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I did the same thing for my 300 Weatherby. It took 1-2 days iirc. The loads were a little conservative. I went another 1.8 gr over max without any signs of pressure and was just getting 50-95 fps over the published data from Berger. YMMV. I will say that I was amazed at the grouping of this bullet with only 3 different powder weights. All shot MOA or better at 600m.

-Jason
 
I emailed them for data as well. Took a few days and ended up not using it anyway due to it being way underpowered compared to any reloading manuals I have or the Hodgdon web site.
 
Ok. Cause in my manuals for 3006 all I got are 200 and 220 gr. Load data. I have used hodgdons sites before with success. So I might just go from that. Thank you. Ill keep waiting for berger to reply back. But ill try hodgdon site.
 
kenneth carlson said:
Ok. Cause in my manuals for 3006 all I got are 200 and 220 gr. Load data. I have used hodgdons sites before with success. So I might just go from that. Thank you. Ill keep waiting for berger to reply back. But ill try hodgdon site.
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That's all you need. The 200 and 220 load data will give you an idea of what powders are appropriate, and what sort of charge ranges you can reasonably expect to use.

Using the "start" charge from either the 200 or 220 load data will be safe. As you work your way up, keep an eye out for pressure signs, accuracy, etc as you always would. You will likely be able to go a bit over the 220 load's "max" but probably not the 200 load's "max". However as always you are dealing with your individual rifle - when working up your load use standard procedures and standard common sense, and pay attention to what your rifle/ammo is telling you.
 
Glad this came up. I was going to reload some .300 win mag with the 210 Berger vld's. I'm shooting a tikka tac and using rl22 and I'm just wondering if a person should just use the 220 grain data since none of my reloading manuals have a 208 or 210 gr bullet. What do u think your max load should be.
 
Thank you again. Ill load some up and I hope to get out to the range maybe tomorrow. If I do ill be posting pics of my results. :) I am hoping for the best. I want to use these for hunting they look amazing.
 
kenneth carlson said:
Thank you again. Ill load some up and I hope to get out to the range maybe tomorrow. If I do ill be posting pics of my results. :) I am hoping for the best. I want to use these for hunting they look amazing.
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Reading the Berger book, They say that the VLD are sensitive to seating depth. You may need more than one trip to the range to get your an optimal load worked up.

BTW COAL for the 210 grain Bergers is 3.340"
 
Any more updates and range reports for the 210 Berger in 30 caliber? Maybe some of the ranges are still snowed in, but let's not let this thread die. I have two boxes of the 210 grainers to try in a 30/06 and in a 300 Ultramag.
 
The first picture was a 3 shot group at 100 yards. And the second picture is a 4 shot group at 250 yards. The other flyers you see in the picture were some supper deep curls I tried. My gun hated them.
 

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Glad this came up. I was going to reload some .300 win mag with the 210 Berger vld's. I'm shooting a tikka tac and using rl22 and I'm just wondering if a person should just use the 220 grain data since none of my reloading manuals have a 208 or 210 gr bullet. What do u think your max load should be.
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I'm pushing them out of my 24" barrel at 3063fps with an sd averaging 4 and ex in the teens. Oal is 3.480", 79.5gr of h1000, cci 250 primers, fed brass. I found rl22 was temp sensitive even though it's not supposed to be, plus I wasn't able to even break into 2900fps at 74gr charge. Thanks to some junk Winchester primers, come summer I had to back that load down to 71gr and burst another primer, ate another bolt head then gave up on it and went back to the old trusty h1000 and cci. I don't plan on changing ever again.

I haven't played with the oal, I just loaded these to mag length, did my own version of the ladder test shooting 5 round groups at .5gr charge increments, picked the center charge onCe the groups stopped climbing. I was blown away how these bullets accuracy/grouping is unaffected by charge variations. At 300y I could not see a difference in group size, only the elevation in which it hit the paper.

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Hope you have better luck with the 210gr "Burgers" than we had with the 168gr out of a 300 RUM at 600 yards on my son's cow elk.They exploded like confetti on the ribcage leaving just a flat jacket like a quarter.Barely made it to the lungs.The other cow I dropped trotting at 500 with the same load same results.Good thing I didn't hit the center of the shoulder blade or it would have escaped wounded.These were chronied at 3400 fps.Yes both elk died, but I like a bullet to hold together after impact like an Accubond or Partition.If bullet placement had have been a little off the wolves would have had a free meal miles later.JMO..........Harold
 
These bullets have light jackets, discretion must be used. These are a long range bullet, or low impact velocity. Your results are exactly what is to be expected at that range/velocity.

The entire purpose behind using these to hunt is that at extended ranges or fallen velocities these will expand where your partition or accubond will not.

You've got to chose a bullet for it's intended purpose, it's not rocket appliances.
 
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