22-250 for bear
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Zedex, there is alot more to killing big game then 'energy dump' 
sure, a 22 cal bullet will probably expend every meager foot pound it has, as the bullet slows to a stop and the wound channel ENDS.
on the other hand, a 7mm Rem Mag can expand, penetrate, and exit with more energy at 200 yards than a 22-250 has at the muzzle
bullet construction and bullet placement is more important than caliber and impact energy.
Im not saying you cant consistently kill big game with a 22 cal with good bullets, as you can with good bullets placed well. but to suggest a 22-250 is a better deer or bear rifle than a 7mm Rem Mag is idiotic...
sure, a 22 cal bullet will probably expend every meager foot pound it has, as the bullet slows to a stop and the wound channel ENDS.
on the other hand, a 7mm Rem Mag can expand, penetrate, and exit with more energy at 200 yards than a 22-250 has at the muzzle
bullet construction and bullet placement is more important than caliber and impact energy.
Im not saying you cant consistently kill big game with a 22 cal with good bullets, as you can with good bullets placed well. but to suggest a 22-250 is a better deer or bear rifle than a 7mm Rem Mag is idiotic...
Well, sure, but make 'em hot and heavy loads.Amphibious said:Kombi, when that 303/25 get's done a black bear is the first thing I'll test it on
Say the Barnes TSX 115gn or the Nosler 120gn Partition or 110gn Accubond.
kombi1976 said:
I'll give those 117gr GK's a try since I have box n the bench. a .243 will kill a bear just fine if you're surgical about it, seen it done. one shot, bang, trot, flop. that 303/25 should be "approx" .243 performance with that load. I don't shoot big bears anyways, 5 - 6ft are usually wahat shows up first, they taste better in that range
back to the .22-250. I'm sure i can be done. I wouldn't do it... but hey, a .22 Hornet is just as legal.... doesn't make it right...
I wouldn't go hunting bear intentionally with any kind of a .22 cal centre fire rifle, but if I was backed into a corner and had to use one if it was all I had in my hands at the time then I would be taking my chances ,and picking my shot s carefully. Kind of like the old native lady from Slave Lake , Bella Twin ,who shot a record grizzly with a Model 39 Cooey .22 Rimfire, with one well placed shot , even tho she put the other 6 or 7 shells into his head after he was down.
The 22-250 is a foundation for a good bear rifle, with the right loads. This is what I suggest: First neck it up to .25 caliber with a tapered expander, then run it through a .250 Savage full length resizer. You may need to fire-form at this point. Now load up some 120gr Partitions with H4831 to approximately 2750fps. Et voila.
For the record, no deer I have shot has been able to withstand a good hit from either of my 7mm RM's. In fact, every deer I have harvested with a 7mm RM has been a one shot kill. The one that got away were clear misses. (1 Elk and 1 Mulie)
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zedex said:
Well the trouble is that high velocity restricts penetration in tissue, regardless of how it performs in other media. As you can see from the .223 results below, penetration is only about 9". By the time you increase velocity another 750 fps the penetration is now reduced to 7", and you have a pissed off bear!
Lefty #### said:
This thing about Inuit and other Natives up north killing Polar bears, Caribou etc has created many a heated debate, many times within the last year. I figure there must have been at least 20 pages of posts on the topic. Including one thread that had to be locked and deleted because it got so out of hand. So why bring it up AGAIN?
That is why Amphib was annoyed with the "Native woman killed giant grizzly with .22" comment.
todbartell said:seems to me you think a 22-250 is a better hunting cartridge than a 7mm Mag
It seems to me you should buy a 22/250 and witness the carnage one of these little babies will do instead of talking out your rear. I am actually shocked you dont own one already. You have all the other toys including your fuzzy pajamas.
As i said before and i will repeat myself TOD. I will continue to use my 7 mag.
Boomer. I was under the impression that posting ####ography on this site was frowned upon.
you're the one talking out your ass, you have never shot a deer or bear with a 22-250, have you not??zedex said:
I have shot over a dozen big game animals with the 7mm Rem Mag, and I know it works. very well.oh, and about my pajamas...
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