.22 Hornet

I like the 22 Hornet as well. The only problem with it is case neck splits. The K Hornet chamber pretty much stops this problem.

My hornet is on a heavy side wall Martini Cadet action, with a straight 1 inch barrel. It shoots very well. One thing though, if you've got a lot of ground hogs, it makes for a lot of reloading. At this stage of the game, even though I still enjoy it, loading up 1500 to 2000 rounds of 22 Hornet or K Hornet, starts to get tedious. As you can tell, I don't have a progressive press.

As much as I like the 22 Hornet, I have to say I also really like the 22WMR. It will easily kill a ground hog or rabbit, past 150 yards, if you know your rifle and ammuntion combination. I really need to find some 30 grain MAXI Mag TNT, by the brick. Doesn't seem to be available anymore. It has a muzzle velocity of 2240 fps out of my CZ452 and is very accurate. The charts say the bullet is still doing 1375 fps at 100 yards and has about an inch and a half of trajectory at 100 yards. The 22 Hornet is about 800 fps faster atthe muzzle but there is less 1/2 inch of trajectory difference between them.

Not that it's a big deal but the cost of aquiring brass, bullets, primers, powder, dies etc then factor in the time to reload and the Hornet is quite a bit more expensive to shoot. Now don't think for one second that I'm trying to put you off from your build, because I'm not, by all means do it. All I'm saying, IMHO, is that if you are into some serious gopher shooting as I was into last June, 1500 rounds didn't even make a dent in the gopher population, on the quarter section I was shooting on. There was no way to hand load and keep up the shooting pace from sun up to sun down. I only had 2 days to shoot.

As much as I like the 22 Hornet, and I like it very much, for shooting under such conditions as described above, on the little ground squirrels that permeated the ranch, of my cousin in Alberta, east of Cardston the 22lr wasn't quite enough but the 22WMR filled the bill very nicely on shots out past 150 yards. I didn't bother with anything further out because there wasn't a dry place to lay down on and I didn't feel like carrying a mat around with me as it's a pain to move while positioning. The mono cane rest worked very well on the longer shots.

Just one caveat, on such small cartridges, it's very easy to reach maximum powder levels in a hurry. 1/10 grain can easily be the difference between a "to hot" load and a perfect load.
 
K-hornet or .221 fireball is the way to go for this application. Much easier to get reliable accuracy and case life with the K-hornet. .221 fireball is accurate, not too loud and is better in the wind--that is why I went with it. (i also use .222 and .223 as conditions warrant.)
 
right on, I'm big on .222, one day I'll get around to a Hornet
My one and only varmint rifle is a 222. On a reverse note, I handload it with Winchester 22 Hornet bulk bullets in the 46 grain hollow point.
Very accurate load, with 25.0 grains of WW748 powering it, about 3100 fps.

A K-Hornet is a regular Hornet that just wants to be a 222. ;)
 
I am very pleased with my Anschutz 1730HB in 22 Hornet.I have had no problems getting 1/2" five shot groups at 100 yards with the 40gr v-max.

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For those that reload the Hornet: How many times can a case be sized. (I'm assuming this case has to be full length sized each time) before they get too long or crack?
Also when fire-forming to k-Hornet, is the round still accurate or does it change the point of impact?

How much louder will the .221 Fireball be than the Hornet?
 
A down-loaded .223? Hmmm...
What would be a good load which will have a similar report and ballistics to the Hornet?
If this could work it would be like buying two guns.
 
A down-loaded .223? Hmmm...
What would be a good load which will have a similar report and ballistics to the Hornet?
If this could work it would be like buying two guns.

Don't get me wrong, the Hornet has always got my attention and respect. But, as I have other projects on the go, as my 6BR benchrest rifle and a good 7-08 metallic silhouette shooting gun, the Hornet may have to take a back seat for a while. The majic formula with wisper loading anything using Unique is 10 grains. Work up from there 'till your chrono tells you otherwise. Problem with Unique is that it's a dirty powder, so try Trailboss, it works too.
 
I reloaded the 221,223 and 22 Hornet. Case life is definitely pretty good with the Hornet - it probably is better with 221 Fireball but like every other round, case life is based on hot you choose to load this round. I have some 200 cases of 22H Win brass and I have reloaded it 2x already going on to my 3 firing and I have lost only 2 cases - 2 to loose primer pockets - 1 for sure I can trace to overpressure load due to over length case, I don't know what caused the second case to be overpressure as it had a pierced primer but the rest of the cases are still going strong. You don't have to FL re-size a hornet - it can be neck sized.

Keep in mind that 221 Fireball brass is way more harder to find and much more expensive but as it is thicker (case wall/necks) I think it would be more durable. The noise difference is pretty significant from a 22 Hornet to a Fireball but you are getting more velocity so the trade off is there. In a 40 grain bullet, I would hazard a guess that the 221 FB is the most efficient 22 centerfire. With Lil Gun, I have seen loads that are within 300 FPS of a 223 but with 10 grains less powder.

I used to be a huge proponent of the 221 FB but a couple of things really turned me off of the round. There aren't enough manf that make rifles and brass. The rifle selection for the round is very poor - I think short of the Custom Factory rifles like Cooper, you only have a choice of Remington and CZ. CZs are great and if you are looking to try a new rifle it is a good choice, the Rem 700 action isn't great for these micro cartridges - I found that the case wouldn't eject forcefully enough. Brass is limited to Remington and Lapua (if you can find it) and difficult to find.

Likely in the future, when I have more time I will get another Fireball, it is a very interesting round. I can't speak to a K-Hornet as I have never had one. Hope this info helps.
 
I like the 22 hornet, but I think that if I where to build a rifle in that velocity range it would be a 221 fireball, as others have said as well. I would do this simply for ease of brass; find out when one of the assult rifle guys is going to hose off targets, and grab his brass when he leaves it on the ground. Shorten to fit, and ream the neck.
Mike
 
I like the 22 hornet, but I think that if I where to build a rifle in that velocity range it would be a 221 fireball, as others have said as well. I would do this simply for ease of brass; find out when one of the assult rifle guys is going to hose off targets, and grab his brass when he leaves it on the ground. Shorten to fit, and ream the neck.

I found it easier to just walk into P&D and purchase 22 Hornet brass.They had a good amount of both Winchester and Remington brass.
 
get a 223. 8 grains of TrailBoss under a 40gr Vmax does 2150 fps and accurate.

Where is the fun in that?:D

As it is,I can justify the 17Mach2,the 22Hornet,and the 223,because each offers a significant step up over the other.
 
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