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Hey guys

I just recently got RCBS supreme master reloading kit and Im looking at putting a nice round together. This will be my first time doing any reloading, so..... :p

Some of the rounds Im looking at are
50gr Vmax or SX
53gr Vmax
55gr Vmax or SX

I like the sounds of the Super Explosive rounds because Im moreless putting this round together for this winters coyotes, so I wanna be on the minimal damage side of things. Im leaning towards the 53 grainer right now. Also one of the reasons why I got into reloading was I wanted to make some nice accurate rounds. I did find that the store bought 45grainers shot the best in my rifle. I dont know if that matters when making your own rounds or not???

This will be shot with a Stevens 200 9 twist with Varget power and (havent bought yet) CCI 400/450 primers.

Ive got ahold of the old Hornady's manual, but not the lastest one with the 53gr Vmax round that Im looking at starting out with.

Hes a pic of the old manual without the Vmax round
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Does anyone have the new manual and does it have the 53gr vmax in it?

cheers
 
The new manual has the very same load data plus five newer powders, the load data is the same for 52-53 grain bullets regardless if the name of the bullet starts with a "A" or a "V".

Again the charge weight of powder and velocity are identical between the old and new manuals, the new manual has AR Comp, IMR 8208 XBR, Power Pro Varmit and CFE 223 added.

53 grain V-Max
B.C. 0.290
C.O.L. 2.240

Sierra load data for cross reference.
http://accurateshooter.net/Downloads/sierra223rembolt.pdf
 
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big- Me being new to the game, I didnt know that they are all the same.

Taz- I did check that site out before and again didnt see the one I was looking for.

thanks
 
I loaded a bunch of 223 rem lately using 50 grn Vmax projectiles and Varget. Holy crap, with minimal powder charge by the load data off the Hogdgen web page it was almost filled to the top and I am sure I was compressing the powder a bit. I'm thinking next reloads will be with a different powder than Varget.
 
With 53 gr I load 26.0 gr varget no compression and .8 inch with no fine tuning anything under 26 varget short of touching the lands you should be fine
 
Tak said:
With 53 gr I load 26.0 gr varget no compression and .8 inch with no fine tuning anything under 26 varget short of touching the lands you should be fine
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Sounds good! Thanks alot

mike shickele said:
Three powders that I think work well in the 223 are H322, win748, and TAC. For coyotes in the winter, stick with the mag primers.
Mike
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I was looking at the Hodgdon site lastnight and it seems any of those powders are good for cold weather. H322 being one of them and it uses less powder to boot. thx

With the CCI 450 being the mag primer. Does it just have alittle more power over the 400? And primers being fairly cheap, would the BR4 work even better?

cheers
 
Mag primers are more failproof in cold weather they burn hotter I don't know if you would see a difference between the br4 and the 400 someone can correct me if im wrong but tac is very stable temperature wise
 
The 450 burns a bit longer, not hotter, I believe. I love TAC as it seems to inhibit copper fouling in the 2 guns I have tried it in. I'm using up large quantities of H322 in my 223 right now though.
Mike
 
mildcustom2 said:
I loaded a bunch of 223 rem lately using 50 grn Vmax projectiles and Varget. Holy crap, with minimal powder charge by the load data off the Hogdgen web page it was almost filled to the top and I am sure I was compressing the powder a bit. I'm thinking next reloads will be with a different powder than Varget.
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This is very common with varget in small cases. Every bullet I have loaded needs a compressed load of varget in my .223, no pressure signs. I have switched to imr 8208 for 55gr bullets and now only use varget for 70gr. pills. As far as using magnum primers, if you are loading with a temp stable powder like the hodgon extreme line, there is no need. I like rem. 7-1/2 BR primers.
 
Tak said:
Mag primers are more failproof in cold weather they burn hotter I don't know if you would see a difference between the br4 and the 400 someone can correct me if im wrong but tac is very stable temperature wise
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Good thing to know about the mag primers. thanks So far Ive just found the br4's in town here. Ill look at another store that might have some 450's when I get a chance. Thanks for the heads up on the tac

cam1936 said:
I have a .223 load for 53 Sierra HP Match. 26 grains of Varget, went up to 27, but 26 shot better. Work up loads in your rifle though.
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I was going to start on the low side and work my way up. thanks

Jmiverson said:
This is very common with varget in small cases. Every bullet I have loaded needs a compressed load of varget in my .223, no pressure signs. I have switched to imr 8208 for 55gr bullets and now only use varget for 70gr. pills. As far as using magnum primers, if you are loading with a temp stable powder like the hodgon extreme line, there is no need. I like rem. 7-1/2 BR primers.
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So the cci br4's should be alright to try out? I know I can get them locally for sure. thx
 
All loads done with Win brass, Win small rifle primers, Benchmark powder and shot from a Tikka T3 HB Varmint 1:8 twist.......

-55 grain V-Max, 23.7 grains powder, OAL 2.240". 3 shots, one ragged hole at 100 yards (.177" group).-------My best load.

-53 grain V-Max, 24.1 grains powder, OAL 2.245"

-50 grain V-Max, 25.8 grains powder, OAL 2.235"

-55 grain Hornady SP, 25.2 grain powder, OAL 2.230"

-50 grain Hornady SP, 25.3 grain powder, OAL 2.210"

-50 grain Barnes Varmint Grenade, 25.8 grains powder, OAL 2.200"

-55 grain Nosler Ballistic Tip, 24.2 grains powder, OAL 2.240"

-55 grain Barnes TSX, 23.7 grains powder, OAL 2.180"

-53 grain Barnes TSX, 23.6 grains powder, OAL 2.200"

-60 grain Sierra HP, 23.5 grains powder, OAL 2.260"
 
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