.223 on rabbit?am i dumb?

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im buying my first new decent gun and i want something fun but that i can hunt small game with too so i want a .223 xcr.i intend to take only headshots wich is why im getting it in the first place, shotguns are cruel and destroy meat and .22 is boring, i want to see pink mist.

but, is this rifle accurate enough to do it 30-100 yards, and if shot in the head will it spread to the rest of the body?ive never shot a 223 i dont know what it will do to a rabbit or partridge.and what do you think in general of hunting with an "assault"rifle..i cant imagine the conversation i would have if stoped in the woods by an officer.
 
greengoblin said:
what do you think in general of hunting with an "assault"rifle..i cant imagine the conversation i would have if stoped in the woods by an officer.
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An "assult rifle" is a select fire full auto. They are prohibited and cannot be legally used for hunting. The XCR is not an "assult rifle". Having said that, it is probably a poor choice for rabbits if you want anything left of it after the shot. Also, unless they are very slow or standing still rabbits, it may be expensive to use a .223 for them. The XCR in .223 is a great round for small game pest control like ground hogs & yotes.
 
AWOL said:
"assult rifle" is select fire full auto. They are prohibited and cannot be legally used for hunting.
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i thought it was clear i was speaking in tearm of its looks but thanxs
the xcr is non restricted and can be used to hunt
how is that even relevant



nice edit...
 
greengoblin said:
i thought it was clear i was speaking in tearm of its looks but thanxs
the xcr is non restricted and can be used to hunt
how is that even relevant



nice edit...
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This is a firearms site, there is little room for assumptions & interpretations. That is what the news media is for...;)
 
AWOL said:
That is what the news media is for...;)
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Hey! WE're not all like that... some of us are the good ones thank you very much. :p

Back on topic... there are a couple things wrong with this post.

How is a shotgun cruel? A .223 is going to wreck more meat than a shot gun if you don't hit them perfectly. A shotgun is perfect for fast moving critters that don't sit still for a head shot. The millions of ducks, geese, upland birds and rabbits that have been killed over the years would agree.

You wanna see a pick mist but you don't want to wreck meat? Then I would suggest you hit a gopher patch in the summer and get your fix before hunting season starts.
 
AWOL said:
This is a firearms site, there is little room for assumptions & interpretations. That is what the news media is for...;)
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sorry. i know you guys are ocd about that.do you have to come of as "that guy" though

ITS NOT A #$%@%@ ASSAULT RIFLE!!!!111ONE ONE :D


so even if its shot in the head the shock will spread to the body?what about actually hitting the head will it do it?the only moving rabits i shoot are ones that are runing because my friend missed them ;)
 
the xcr is not an assault rifle, it is a rifle that is semi-auto. there is a difference in Canada because you can only hunt with one and not both. Basing things on looks is what has caused us so many problems in the first place here in Banada.
 
Might want to check the reported accuracy of the XCR!

Not too many people I know are hunting rabbits off a bipod in an open field to be making headshots on still rabbits.

The .22 from a distance is tuff enough for me. The shotgun just seems like the way to go.
 
greengoblin said:
casterpollox said:
Hey! WE're not all like that... some of us are the good ones thank you very much. :p

Back on topic... how is a shotgun cruel?

sometimes they dont die right away if you get a body shot so it cries like a baby and you gotta snap its neck,i dont like that
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Same thing is going to happen, if not worse, when you miss that running rabbit with your .223. Imagine what it would be like if you hit the back legs or just a paw and it got down a hole?

Or, just don't use bird shot for rabbits. Use something bigger than the WalMart specials that come in #6 or 7s
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Rabbit heads are pretty small and especially if moving, unless you are an amazing shot I doubt you will be getting head shots. At least not for every rabbit you shoot at.
 
AWESOME choice for hunting varmints based on it's looks. Sure a ar 15 could be better but..........

I must have one. I was thinking the benelli but it is just not "black" enough
Every hunter should be shooting varmints with the blackest guns from the deepest pits of hell :)D) they can find. Perhaps other hunters will catch on.
Camp Cook has had some very good things to say about his xcr.
223 is a nice fast flat cartridge.

I will now only hunt with the blackest gun I can afford. Brown is out.
 
I would say 100% fail on the hunting part simply just due to the fact that it's a center fire. I think it's near impossible to kill rabbit without shotgun, yes near impossible! It's hard enough trying to hunt, find, and shoot the damn rabbits with a shotgun. Chances of finding still rabbits whatever your short distance away is... 1/1000 rabbit sightings. You'll quickly lose interest in the hunting of rabbits...

With that said, the XCR has many other pros that comes with it. Just rabbit hunting isn't one of them.
 
greengoblin said:
im buying my first new decent gun and i want something fun but that i can hunt small game with too so i want a .223 xcr.i intend to take only headshots wich is why im getting it in the first place, shotguns are cruel and destroy meat and .22 is boring, i want to see pink mist.

but, is this rifle accurate enough to do it 30-100 yards, and if shot in the head will it spread to the rest of the body?ive never shot a 223 i dont know what it will do to a rabbit or partridge.and what do you think in general of hunting with an "assault"rifle..i cant imagine the conversation i would have if stoped in the woods by an officer.
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I own an XCR and if you want to make head shots on small game go buy yourself a good .22cal bolt action rifle and fire a few thousand rounds through it before you go and buy your tag to go hunting.
 
I've used both 223 & 12 ga with great success. I used to own a Savage 12FV in 223, used it quite a bit for headshots on rabbits, when they were standing still. I now own a Tavor & while I have not had the opportunity to head shoot a rabbit, I would not hesitate to try it.

And, because I also love to hunt using a dog, I have shot plenty more rabbits with a 12 ga.

I must say GG, a shotgun is not cruel. You will see scenario's where things don't go right, regardless of what "tool" you choose to hunt with.

Personally, I support ALL legal methods of hunting/trapping and ALL the shooting sports. To do otherwise is to eventually see the demise of ALL our activities... One of our own, saying the shotgun is a cruel choice for hunting rabbits, well... :slap:

Cheers
Jay
 
Shotguns are cruel huh? Nature's a rough place, get over it. I hear if you use a tactcal shotgun for rabbits they die faster. :rolleyes: If you want to look cool in front of the mirror, buy the XCR. If you want to hunt, buy the proper tools. Rabbit and birds, you need a shotgun or an accurate .22 LR rifle. Flying birds? You need the shotgun. The .223 is a fine cartridge but in a quality rifle capable of accurate shooting. Miss by an inch or two and you'll be picking meat from the tree's. It also could be considered a safety issue if you hunting in areas with lot's of other people. Shotguns are far more desirable in that situation.
 
All I ever use for rabbits is a shotgun. Around here, you have to push the bush to get them out and then take a quick shot when they're on the run. It's a good workout too, doing all that stomping in the high grass and twigs. The rabbits are smart enough to choose places where they know the humans will get tangled up in brush and thorn, lol.

Have you ever seen a lazy beagle sit down in the snow while watching grown men jump on and kick a pile of sticks and twigs? It's a funny sight...
 
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