223 Reload case failure ???

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Did some reloads and this happened. Any suggestions as to why? This was the 4th round ... Checked first three & they were definitely bulged out a bit but wasn't noticeable til close inspection. Reloads were;

Lapua 77gr bullet
Lapua new match brass
24gr varget powder
COL 2.260
Primers cci 400

Rifle is a custom made 223 with a 1-8 twist barrel. I made up 10 rounds of this and we shot off 4 before this happened. Help on reasons why this happened??

Otokiak
Rankin Inlet, NU
CANADA
 
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How many time was the case reloaded? Got pictures of the other cases? Pictures of the case head/primers? Where did this bullet ended up?

You are slightly above max load as per my Lee book (23.7 gr varget being never exceed)
 
I am concerned about the the chamber, not the brass. Drop a case into the chamber. It should go all the way in s that just the extractor grove is sticking out. If some of the case body is showing, the chamber is cut too shallow.

This is easy to remedy. Do not shoot he rifle again until this is investigated by someone other than the gunsmith who cut the chamber.
 
I am concerned about the the chamber, not the brass. Drop a case into the chamber. It should go all the way in s that just the extractor grove is sticking out. If some of the case body is showing, the chamber is cut too shallow.

This is easy to remedy. Do not shoot he rifle again until this is investigated by someone other than the gunsmith who cut the chamber.

Ditto, only 2 ways something like that can happen, both of them being the casing not supported by the chamber.

As Ganderite said, check the chamber.
You never said what type of gun, if this is a semi, make sure the round isn't being prematurely set off.
 
Wow, I've never seen a case fail like that!
Ganderite, would the bolt even close if the chamber was cut that short, assuming it's a bolt gun. Otokiak, is the bolt hard to close? What kind of gun is it?
 
The case was supported right up to the point at which it ruptured. It is apparent how much of the case was not supported.
Headspace could be perfect - but the gap between chamber mouth and boltface might be excessive. Too much of the cartridge case hanging out in the open air, so to speak.
The rifle really needs to be carefully inspected.
First thing I would do pull the barrel and take some very careful measurements.
 
I've seen this before, an oversized recoil lug was used, but barrel shank was cut for a regular recoil lug. Headspace will check out fine, but as stated above, unsupported case head results.
 
First suspicion would be head spacing.

Head space is often misunderstood.

The headspace could be perfect, but the rifle very dangerous.

The headspace could be grossly excessive, but the rifle quite safe.

If a chamber is cut too deep, but the bold face is close to the chamber, the excess headspace does not matter. For example, some guys worry about 12 thou of headspace, but they can shoot 308 in a 3006 all day long. (500 thou of headspace.)

The only measurement that matters is amount of case protruding from the chamber. This, in itself, is not headspace. I call it shallow chamber. If the gunsmith cuts the chamber too shallow, he would then cut the barrel threads to give the correct headspace, which would leave the case head unsupported.

The depth of the solid head/web varies from make to make of brass. So long as some of the solid section is supported, the problem will not be noticed. But one day, a case with a low web will be shot, and the case will burst, looking like the one above.

The barrel needs to be set back one thread; the chamber then cut deeper and the breech end trimmed. All easy to do.

Was this a home gunsmithing project? This is where I have seen this done before.

In summary, the problem is the case sticking out of the chamber and being unsupported. This is not a headspace issue.

However, if a rifle is correctly chambered (think of a Lee Enfield) and has perfect headspace, it can be made to let the case stick out by changing to a sorter bolt head. That would be the kind of excessive headspace that is dangerous.
 
And thanks to Ganderite for posting what would have been my next guess.

In a different post the OP stated that a friend had installed the barrel. I don't recall if he had also chambered and threaded it.
 
my guess would be a short chambered barrel installed and made to work on the bolt side of things instead of reaming the chamber properly
 
Would the OP please advise who did the work? This is important to us as Lapua brass is being used and this is a safety issue for all and we appreciate Ganderite's comments. PM please if you don't wish to post.

Regards,

Peter
 
Had a look at the thread describing the build. Looks good. But the first thing that I would do is pull the barrel and use a depth micrometer to check the barrel collar to front of locking lug gap, and the clearance between the bolt nose and the barrel face inside the counterbore. The thickness of the recoil lug has to be considered when taking these measurements.
 
My first question is "did you purchase a short chambered barrel to be cut to spec by the gunsmith?" I have seen that happen before where a smith tried to get away with the short chamber.
 
even after all the smithing is correct and all the measurements are in spec, make sure you drop that powder charge a bit. I concur with the other poster above that you are over charging the case. Only by a bit, but its overcharged. If you want that same charge weight, then drop the bullet weight a tad.
 
I agree with Gander on the things to look for but I really do wonder how the first three brass (OPs first post) held up and didn't rupture if the "unsupported" theory holds up for the one that did blow out. My first thought was to agree with the "too short barrel threaded tenon for the thickness of recoil lug but pretty sure every brass would have ruptured if that were the case. A much different thickness in brass base web could allow this to happen but doesn't say much for the theory that Lapua is much more tolerance controlled and its quality is superior to anything else
 
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