.22WMR for coyotes and timber wolves

[A-zone]

For a dedicated coyote and wolf rifle, it would be hard to improve on the good old .22-250, preferably in a handy Sako or Tikka in a standard "hunter" configuration (no heavy barrels if you're looking for a "walking" rifle).

Plan B would be a nice Sako "Forester" in .243
like this one: http://www.ellwoodepps.com/used_rifle_page_bolt2.asp

Ok, now you guys have my attention. What would you guys suggest as a coyote and wolf rifle? I have a .308 and 30 06 and I normally hunt in forestry but I'm hoping on some prairies 09.

 

[CV32]

Ok, now you guys have my attention. What would you guys suggest as a coyote and wolf rifle?

Fast twist .223 shooting heavy bullets or a .243 (preferably the latter). A .22-250 would be a good choice too, but for wolves you'd need to stick to bullets that are at the top of the range (55+ gr) for a typical 1-in-14 twist .22-250.

 

[beaverfur]

Fast twist .223 shooting heavy bullets or a .243 (preferably the latter). A .22-250 would be a good choice too, but for wolves you'd need to stick to bullets that are at the top of the range (55+ gr) for a typical 1-in-14 twist .22-250.

Ya maybe a 22-250 is too small for dog hunting........ should stick to big bore stuff make sure you tare the pelt all to hell. Wolfs are not a mythical creature, and do not have a force fields.

 

[srt4u2nv]

yup any well placed bullet from 30gr and up will kill a wolf dead as dead can get.....I would not even think twice about shooting a wolf at 150yds with a .22WMR and a CCI MaxiMag or Rem accutip.....I also shoot a .22-250 but thats because I like to shoot long range when I can....to tell you the truth a .22WMR would do me for 90% of my varmint hunting concidering I only shot one fox last year that was at about 120yds running.

 

[Gatehouse]

Actually Gate, Rimfires are Perfectly legal to use in BC on Yotes.

Also legal to use rimfires on Bobcat,linx,wolverine and all other small game which includes Coyotes

Definately not a good choice for wolves and yes Illegal for any "Big game" animal here.

I should have checked the regs first

Rimfire legal for yotes, not for wolves.

 

[H4831]

yup any well placed bullet from 30gr and up will kill a wolf dead as dead can get.....I would not even think twice about shooting a wolf at 150yds with a .22WMR and a CCI MaxiMag or Rem accutip.....I also shoot a .22-250 but thats because I like to shoot long range when I can....to tell you the truth a .22WMR would do me for 90% of my varmint hunting concidering I only shot one fox last year that was at about 120yds running.

I will guess you have never encountered, shot, or shot at wolves in a real world, wilderness bush situation.

 

[beaverfur]

I will guess you have never encountered, shot, or shot at wolves in a real world, wilderness bush situation.

They are running around the back yard........ That's real world.

 

[H4831]

Quote-They are running around the back yard........ That's real world.
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Sorry, it is not real world situations. It is the world of Disney, with wolves that have become used to people and thus tame, with no fear of people. Wolves that live in wilderness situations in the bush are a completely different animal. Trust me, I am not telling you something I have read in some book.
Wild wolves in the wilderness are very hard to see. They are masters at keeping out of sight and like I pointed out in my first post on this, if you get a shot at them it will likely be just a fleeting quick shot, or, more likely, the wolf will be seen at very long range, across a frozen lake, or in the alpine. The time it takes a wild wolf to get from a standing start to full speed is so fast, it is just a blur.
Come to think of it, there is a published book (now sold out at the publishers) that has a pretty good chapter devoted to BC wolves. But, maybe I am biased, because I wrote it!

 

[srt4u2nv]

I will guess you have never encountered, shot, or shot at wolves in a real world, wilderness bush situation.

your right I have never shot a wolf but I sure wouldnt pass one up if all I had in my hand is a .22WMR....not really worried about tracking I dont save pelts and dead dogs get left in the woods anyway all I need to see is blood on the snow a wolf will die quick if the shot was in the ribs,neck or head he may run a ways first but who cares? not me DEAD is DEAD.

everyone in here who is saying .22 centerfires are to small for wolves need to pull their heads out of their ass they are a soft skin dog I'm sure a .22LR would kill one at 50yds so why not a .22WMR out to 100yds?...all it take is 1gr through the lungs or heart to kill an animal its not magic like you guys are making it out to be......if a 45gr TSX can drop deer dead in their tracks I dont see why it wouldnt kill a wolf.....unless they have special powers I dont know about......LMAO

Shoot straight shoot often and make the shot count .22WMR will kill wolves hands down and people who think different are the same ones who think they need a .338 for moose .

 

[srt4u2nv]

Quote-They are running around the back yard........ That's real world.
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Sorry, it is not real world situations. It is the world of Disney, with wolves that have become used to people and thus tame, with no fear of people. Wolves that live in wilderness situations in the bush are a completely different animal. Trust me, I am not telling you something I have read in some book.
Wild wolves in the wilderness are very hard to see. They are masters at keeping out of sight and like I pointed out in my first post on this, if you get a shot at them it will likely be just a fleeting quick shot, or, more likely, the wolf will be seen at very long range, across a frozen lake, or in the alpine. The time it takes a wild wolf to get from a standing start to full speed is so fast, it is just a blur.
Come to think of it, there is a published book (now sold out at the publishers) that has a pretty good chapter devoted to BC wolves. But, maybe I am biased, because I wrote it!

the deicussion is not about how hard it is to see a wolf we can all agree on that its will the .22WMR kill one and the answer is yes it will but like everything else there are better caliber choices out there.....but thats no reason to run and buy a new gun if you got a .22WMR and you see a wolf at 100yds give it a shot in the ribs and it WILL die!........I dont know about the wolves in your area but ours are just dogs with a thin hide maybe the ones in your area invested in body armour if a .22WMR rifle isnt enough out to 100yds atleast.

 

[watsknew]

your right I have never shot a wolf but I sure wouldnt pass one up if all I had in my hand is a .22WMR....not really worried about tracking I dont save pelts and dead dogs get left in the woods anyway all I need to see is blood on the snow a wolf will die quick if the shot was in the ribs,neck or head he may run a ways first but who cares? not me DEAD is DEAD.

everyone in here who is saying .22 centerfires are to small for wolves need to pull their heads out of their ass they are a soft skin dog I'm sure a .22LR would kill one at 50yds so why not a .22WMR out to 100yds?...all it take is 1gr through the lungs or heart to kill an animal its not magic like you guys are making it out to be......if a 45gr TSX can drop deer dead in their tracks I dont see why it wouldnt kill a wolf.....unless they have special powers I dont know about......LMAO

Shoot straight shoot often and make the shot count .22WMR will kill wolves hands down and people who think different are the same ones who think they need a .338 for moose .

i like the cut of your jib

 

[beaverfur]

Quote-They are running around the back yard........ That's real world.
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Sorry, it is not real world situations. It is the world of Disney, with wolves that have become used to people and thus tame, with no fear of people. Wolves that live in wilderness situations in the bush are a completely different animal. Trust me, I am not telling you something I have read in some book.
Wild wolves in the wilderness are very hard to see. They are masters at keeping out of sight and like I pointed out in my first post on this, if you get a shot at them it will likely be just a fleeting quick shot, or, more likely, the wolf will be seen at very long range, across a frozen lake, or in the alpine. The time it takes a wild wolf to get from a standing start to full speed is so fast, it is just a blur.
Come to think of it, there is a published book (now sold out at the publishers) that has a pretty good chapter devoted to BC wolves. But, maybe I am biased, because I wrote it!

Faster than a speeding bullet and can deflect under .30cal rounds.... Those are the ones that live in my woods too.

 

[srt4u2nv]

i like the cut of your jib

Thanks I cant take all this .22 caliber cant kill anything #### people seem to post everyday...people saying a .243 or .270 is the rifle of choice for wolves????....maybe if your hunting deer at the time and a wolf pops out then ya those guns are great. But if your going out just for yotes and wolves if one shows up are you going to let him walk away because you only have a .22WMR?......HELL NO shoot the damn thing if you know you can make the shot then make the dang shot dont get caught up in all this caliber crap....

I would shoot a wolf at the following distances and never second guess

.22lr out to 50yds
.22WMR .17HMR out to 150yds
.223/.22-250 out to 500yds

no need to go any bigger then a .22cal for animals smaller then deer.

 

[BCWILL]

I should have checked the regs first

Rimfire legal for yotes, not for wolves.

You may have.......it was two? BC regs ago they misprinted the regs and listed NO rimfires for Yotes.
Created quite a stir amongst trappers

 

[srt4u2nv]

Faster than a speeding bullet and can deflect under .30cal rounds.... Those are the ones that live in my woods too.

maybe we need to start a wolf defence thread

 

[Eagleye]

I have shot a number of 'yoyes with the 22 WMR, and most were inside 100 yards. While I am confident that a 22 WMR would kill a wolf with a well placed shot at reasonably close range, it would not be my first choice. I have taken a number of wolves with my 220 Swift, using 55 grain Hornadys or 55 Ballistic Tips, and never had one go 25 yds after the hit, including one that was shot just a tad far back. [liver totally annihilated] I have also shot a few with the 6mm Remington, with the 70 gr Ballistic Tip, and I think it is probably a superior Wolf killer, with all wolves I have shot "DRT". Wolves in this area can get to quite a size, [100 lb +] so a marginal chambering is not a great idea. Regards, Eagleye

 

[BAITRON]

Thanks I cant take all this .22 caliber cant kill anything s**t people seem to post everyday...people saying a .243 or .270 is the rifle of choice for wolves????....maybe if your hunting deer at the time and a wolf pops out then ya those guns are great. But if your going out just for yotes and wolves if one shows up are you going to let him walk away because you only have a .22WMR?......HELL NO shoot the damn thing if you know you can make the shot then make the dang shot dont get caught up in all this caliber crap....

I would shoot a wolf at the following distances and never second guess

.22lr out to 50yds
.22WMR .17HMR out to 150yds
.223/.22-250 out to 500yds

no need to go any bigger then a .22cal for animals smaller then deer.

I shot a fox which is 90 % smaller than a wolf with a .17 HMR at 50 yards. I shot it in the vitals and watched it run at least 3 miles before I lost sight of it. Rimfires are too small for wolves period. It will eventually die but that is unethical and if you can't afford a centerfire rifle you should stick to small game.

 

[Levi Garrett]

I shot a fox which is 90 % smaller than a wolf with a .17 HMR at 50 yards. I shot it in the vitals and watched it run at least 3 miles before I lost sight of it. Rimfires are too small for wolves period. It will eventually die but that is unethical and if you can't afford a centerfire rifle you should stick to small game.

Did you check where the hit was , the word vital sounds important, and a .17 hmr through the lungs would have made a real mess.
And 3 miles eh?
I gotta call BS on this one

 

[srt4u2nv]

Bull####!!!!!

no way you made a heart or lung shot on a fox if it ran 3miles seeing as you never recovered it I can honestly say you either missed or hit it way back in the guts. If you made a good shot on it it would have went less then 300yds 100%.....you made a ####ty shot end of story.

your post lacks experience and credibility if you recovered the animal and have proof of where the shot was then I would think about believing you but I'm sorry I have shot plenty of animals to know a well hit fox will not go that far weather its a .22lr or a .416 if you hit it in the heart or lungs it should go down under 300yds.

 

[Levi Garrett]

Bulls**t!!!!!

no way you made a heart or lung shot on a wolf if it ran 3miles seeing as you never recovered it I can honestly say you either missed or hit it way back in the guts. If you made a good shot on it it would have went less then 300yds 100%.....you made a s**tty shot end of story.

your post lacks experience and credibility if you recovered the animal and have proof of where the shot was then I would think about believing you but I'm sorry I have shot plenty of animals to know a well hit wolf will not go that far weather its a .22lr or a .416 if you hit it in the heart or lungs it should go down under 300yds.

A fox