$239.99 Blue Line Pump 12 Gauge Shotgun 18.5" 5+1, Accepts 870 Furniture
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Tried to research this a few years back aswell. This is a longshot but the only connection I found that might have started the rumor of these being made in the same factory as a Remington product was when old Freedom group Remington purchased Marlin and Marlin then purchased H&R, H&R had the pardner pump which was also a 870 clone and it was manufactured in China by Hawk Industries and when you look at the markings on the underside of the Blue line pump shotgun near the loading port it's stamped "Hawk Industries made in China" so in that aspect I guess you can consider it was made in the same factory as another Remington owned productSo I did a bit of a dive into the question of - are these made in the same factory as Remington?
It’s a bit inconclusive. Some people seem to think that Remington could import certain parts, others say they’re all made in NY.
I quite like the parkerized finish on the one I have already.
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But this is the first time I've ever seen this claim that it's the same gun as the Remington 870 Tactical (which it's not) and then also insinuating that it's made side by side with actual Remington 870s. I just wonder where this quote came from...? Was this marketing from the manufacturer and something was lost in translation?
johnny the boy
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It's a random anomaly. They are happening everywhere.Example - Winnipeg winning the hockey game last night.
Inconclusive? It’s a straight up fabrication, a lie. It’s an 870 clone, nothing more.So I did a bit of a dive into the question of - are these made in the same factory as Remington?
It’s a bit inconclusive. Some people seem to think that Remington could import certain parts, others say they’re all made in NY.
I quite like the parkerized finish on the one I have already.
I’m not knocking the shotgun. I have a Norinco HP-9. Great shotgun, and this is a fantastic price. I’m tempted to pick one up myself. Are you sure yours is parkerized?
What is there to check on? Remington has never made an 870 in China.
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- London, Ontario
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- sudbury, ontario
Hey bullseye…..so can you tell me for sure if this shot gun
Can accept another barrel (so it can use chokes )
If possible a rifled barrel can fit it
If so hmmm the price is right for a shot gun that one doesn’t have to worry about about dings and nicks on it
Can accept another barrel (so it can use chokes )
If possible a rifled barrel can fit it
If so hmmm the price is right for a shot gun that one doesn’t have to worry about about dings and nicks on it
It doesn’t accept Remington barrels.
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DaleGribble
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Thank you!
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HP9s are better. At least they accept rem barrels.. Only thing that is not from a 870 is. My reciever and mag tube and pump tube.
Thunderhog
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Jeff it’s probably a lot like a black matte cerakote finish.
Without seeing one and touching it, she’s difficult to say.
Here's a quick picture comparison I took of Remington 870 parts and Blue line pump parts. I'm no expert just an 870 enthusiast, any views and info is based off my personal experience with the Blue line pump i own, just saying this cause who knows there might be some variations between other Blue line pumps....
There's atleast two parts I've found that aren't fully interchangeable, that's the barrel because the the barrel lug that goes over the mag tube when installing the barrel is further forward than the standard 870 barrel lug.
So if one wanted to use actual 870 barrels on a blue line receiver you would have to create some kind of adapter tube to fit over the the mag tube in order to lock it down with the mag cap. And on the other hand if someone tried to use a blue line barrel on a standard 870 receiver, it would not work. The lug is to far forward, it goes passed the 4 rd mag tube.
Top is an 18.5" Remington barrel and bottom is a blue line 28" barrel. Different lug location
Remington 18.5" barrel on the Blue line receiver.
Second part is the receiver stud
On the right side is the Blue line stud, left is a receiver stud threaded for a Remington.
The Blue line stud has a larger diameter at the threads. It's a minor part but if you strip it or cross thread it when you're installing a different stock and need to replace it, the factory Remington stud won't work, it kinda slips into the hole and won't actually thread into the receiver.
Everything else seemed to cross over no problem and seemed to function properly but this is using snap caps not live fire so I cannot vouch for reliability if one was to swap parts between the two and run the firearm like that.
LEFT- NEW POLICE 870 CENTER- BLUE LINE RIGHT- OLDER WINGMASTER 870
The slight variations are circled on the bolt carrier from new production 870s
LEFT- REMINGTON 870 RIGHT- BLUE LINE action bars
Both sets fit in the Remington and Blue Line receiver
TOP- REMINGTON BOTTOM- BLUE LINE
Note the Blue line shell lifter doesn't have the flexi tab cut out
Blue line trigger group assembly in the Remington receiver
And lastly they do accept 870 mag extensions but thought I'd mention i had two Blue Line pumps, one had very tight threads on the end of the mag where I could barely get the extension on and then the other pump thread on no problem. So again tolerances may differ between each one.... Hope this info helps some of you interested in this pump.
(Another side note, I know this thread was for the 18.5" version which isn't threaded for chokes but if anyone picks up the 28" model it takes Winchoke/Browning Invector/Mossberg Accu-Choke pattern chokes)
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Great, post ..thank you.
we have removed the comments about the manufacturing.
DaleGribble
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Love the integrity Bullseye!
Thanks for taking the time to post this for us. Just great detail. This is the kind of thing that makes CGN so indispensable to us all!
