I was In The same boat not long ago but for a target rifle.I chose .243 mainly because I have lots of brass and all the reloading tools I need for it. Also every .243 I have ever owned shot very well. Can’t speak for the 6.5 as I have never owned one but after reading this thread I’m thankful I chose the .243. I’d look pretty stupid with a shaved head and a man-bun………
.243win or 6.5cm for Deer?
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What does that mean ? Please explain . RJ
If you shoot factory, I'd go for the 6.5cm. Higher availability. If you hand load I'd go for a 6.5x55, it will open up a whole new world of milsurps.
I have a Tikka 6.5x55 and it's a wonderful gun, deer elk, moose. I don't have a 6.5cm, as far as I can tell it's just a 6.5x55 with american branding so they could sell more $hit, many people have been lead to believe it's a newly developed cartridge from the ground up (a fine example of marketing)
Either one, low recoil and can shoot it all day without wrecking your shoulder. 6.5 has really good ballistics.
I have a Tikka 6.5x55 and it's a wonderful gun, deer elk, moose. I don't have a 6.5cm, as far as I can tell it's just a 6.5x55 with american branding so they could sell more $hit, many people have been lead to believe it's a newly developed cartridge from the ground up (a fine example of marketing)
Either one, low recoil and can shoot it all day without wrecking your shoulder. 6.5 has really good ballistics.
One fits in a long action and the other fits a SA. The Creedmoor was designed to feed reliably from AR-10 magazines. The creedmoor was designed to fit tighter chamber tolerances in factory rifles. It was also designed to allow the bullet to be seated further out of the case allowing for near 100% case powder fill and seating of boat tail bullets ahead of the shoulder/neck junction.
Comparing the two cartridges is apples and oranges.
From a hunting rifle perspective (especially in Canada) the only thing you mention that matters is the action length, and even THAT is debatable. Especially because some makers (eg tikka) only use one action length regardless of cartridge.
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I agree, but the post I quoted claimed it was just a 6.5x55 with American branding, and that it wasn’t a newly developed cartridge. Obviously none of that is true. It was a cartridge designed specifically for long range target games like PRS, but it also happens to be a fantastic deer cartridge.
From a hunting rifle perspective it basically is a 6.5x55 but American. They both shoot 140gr bullets about the same speed.
But they're not THE SAME cartridge, that is true. Not really sure how anyone could come to that conclusion...
10+ years ago 6.5cm was "the cool new kid", and it gained a reputation of being popular with people who are always on the cutting edge of what's "cool" - hipsters for lack of a better term. Manbuns are common among hipster dudes, and conservatives tend to loathe hipsters so calling people a hipster is a funny insult to some.
Today a real hipster wouldn't touch 6.5cm with a 10 foot pole, way too mainstream. The fact this joke is tired and long since fallen into irrelevance clearly doesn't matter to the people who keep saying it though.
I stand by my claim.
A re-branding of an existing cartridge, altered enough with some good sounding justification and voila... a new cartridge is born. Long action VS short action, very true.
As far as chamber tolerances are concerned, how exactly is this accomplished? Didn't realize 6.5x55 was a lower tolerance fit.
Seating the bullet further out, not a new thing especially with the 6.5.
Take a Tikka in 6.5CM and 6.5x55 and the average person could not tell the difference. Maybe someone from the bench rest crowd could, but not the average hunter.
A victim of marketing.
To the OP, get a 243. 6.5 is too controversial. An don't use for bears, not the right caliber.
6.5 PRC was the one I'd point to a few years ago but even that is getting too popular/common... 8.6 Blackout maybe?...
If anything it's a modernized 260 Remington, not a 6.5x55.
You are probably correct. Would be interesting to know the true lineage
6.5x55 > ??? > 260Rem > 6.5 CM perhaps, or maybe some other route?
I'm not poo-pooing any of the cartridges, they are all fine. The point I was making is that 6.5CM isn't that special or unique... unless you have a man bun of course.
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The parent case to the 6.5 Creedmoor is the 30 Thompson Center or 30 TC.
The 30 TC was an interesting design that actually recoiled less than the 308 Winchester but hit a little harder on game.
It unfortunately didn’t catch on, the 308 Win. lives on and the 30 TC may become a distant memory.
Shoot what you can handle and be accurate with.
The hipster thing is absolutely ridiculous, actually never heard of this until a few days ago on this post……
The 30 TC was an interesting design that actually recoiled less than the 308 Winchester but hit a little harder on game.
It unfortunately didn’t catch on, the 308 Win. lives on and the 30 TC may become a distant memory.
Shoot what you can handle and be accurate with.
The hipster thing is absolutely ridiculous, actually never heard of this until a few days ago on this post……
The fact of the matter is, that most all the people dissing the Creedmore do not realize why it was originally built- and it wasn't to market something new. It was designed for a certain discipline that the vast majority of shooters do not even utilize it in - or have even tried for that matter.
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It actually is a specialty cartridge and better than both the 260 and the 6.5 Swede for what it was designed for, but not when.it comes to hunting ....
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fade2black
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6.5s in various forms have been knocking down big game across the world for 130+ years. Not to say a 6mm isn't capable but the 6.5 has my vote.
I think its fair to say that the 6.5 Creed has become much more useful for hunting with more recent ammo offerings. Originally all factory ammo was geared towards its target lineage. Its popularity has improved the ammo available for hunting though, quite drastically.
