25 Creedmoor Thread

I want to build another fast twist 25 to run the 130+ heavies out of. I like the idea of the creed but now that I see how fast my WBY is, I dont think I could do a creed. Thinking a 25 PRC or SAUM is in my future.
The speed those over bores shoot is VERY hard on Throat life . A popular build used to be the 257 STW . Yup Real fast but max 4-600 rounds and the throat was gone and the barrel fire cracked !
Expensive shooting now a days unless it’s just a 4 Hunting rifle . 🤷🏼‍♂️ JMO RJ
 
The speed those over bores shoot is VERY hard on Throat life . A popular build used to be the 257 STW . Yup Real fast but max 4-600 rounds and the throat was gone and the barrel fire cracked !
Expensive shooting now a days unless it’s just a 4 Hunting rifle . 🤷🏼‍♂️ JMO RJ
Yeah the STW holds way more powder than the PRC or SAUM case. Do some googling on the 25 PRC or SAUM and I think you’ll be surprised. Lots of guys run these in the states, with great success. Even if a barrel is cooked after 1000 rounds, that’s more than the average hunter will shoot in his life. I wouldn’t run one for NRL or any sort of competitive shooting as yeah you’ll cook that pipe in 2 weeks. I have multiple “over bore” calibres such as the 22-284 and they’re fun.

Not shooting a gun to save the barrel is like not doing the deed with your wife to save her for the next guy ;)
 
Also FWIW I just saw this morning in the 25 cal FB group im in, the 25 Creed just recieved SAAMI approval on Jan 27/25. This is wicked, maybe see factory rifles and ammo available in the future?
 
Also FWIW I just saw this morning in the 25 cal FB group im in, the 25 Creed just recieved SAAMI approval on Jan 27/25. This is wicked, maybe see factory rifles and ammo available in the future?
I thought that would happen soon. Its great news. With the SAAMI approval of the 22 Creed it was just a matter of time.

I think we need more of you 25 Creed guys to post some pics of your rifles!!
 
The speed those over bores shoot is VERY hard on Throat life . A popular build used to be the 257 STW . Yup Real fast but max 4-600 rounds and the throat was gone and the barrel fire cracked !
Expensive shooting now a days unless it’s just a 4 Hunting rifle . 🤷🏼‍♂️ JMO RJ
Had one of those for a while, after it lost accuracy (around 1200 rounds in mine) I rebarreled it to another hot rod. A 6mm-7mm Rem Mag Improved, called a 6mm Mach IV. It was a screamer of a round though. Like most heavily over bore cartridges, you have to be careful how hot you get your barrel. - dan
 
If a 6.5cm gets 2800fps with a 140gr bullet, I have troubles believing 5gr less bullet weight in a smaller diameter bore is going to get 100fps more at the same pressures?

That article posted by adamg lists these velocities:
Bullet25 GT25×47 Lapua25 Creedmoor
Berger 135 gr LRHT2,719 fps (5)2,721 fps (11)2,835 fps (10)

Sounds like an interesting cartridge if you like the quarter bore though. If it out-performs the 6.5CM whats not to like? lol
I can appreciate your doubt but the facts are the facts. Take some time and watch the ultimate reloader video I posted earlier on the cartridge (they got even higher velocities than I am getting) In fact he was getting 2900+ at 42grs of H4350. Your doubt may be predicated on the fact you live and shoot at a low elevation. Gavin at ultimate reloader shoots in the mountains and I live in the high plains of Alberta (my altitude is almost 1KM).
I am also shooting Alpha Brass and they are designed to withstand a bit higher pressure. Ill share a video where they demonstrate that.

You asked in your post whats not to like. I must admit I am concered about barrel life. Last time I cleaned it I ran a bore scope down and no major fire cracking yet (less than 300 rounds so far). So I have my fingers crossed that it wont be to big of an issue

 
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The speed those over bores shoot is VERY hard on Throat life . A popular build used to be the 257 STW . Yup Real fast but max 4-600 rounds and the throat was gone and the barrel fire cracked !
Expensive shooting now a days unless it’s just a 4 Hunting rifle . 🤷🏼‍♂️ JMO RJ
Had a 257 STW for a while. Barrel lasted less than 1k rounds before accuracy fell off. I ran it for a couple hundred more and then rebarreled it. Great hunting cartridge though. - dan
 
Had a 257 STW for a while. Barrel lasted less than 1k rounds before accuracy fell off. I ran it for a couple hundred more and then rebarreled it. Great hunting cartridge though. - dan
WOW ! Im surprised it lasted that long Dan - I was always gonnas build one but found the 257 WBee with 110 Accubonds was a good LONG RANGE hunting cartridge at near 3500 fps ! RJ
 
WOW ! Im surprised it lasted that long Dan - I was always gonnas build one but found the 257 WBee with 110 Accubonds was a good LONG RANGE hunting cartridge at near 3500 fps ! RJ
Well, I didn't shoot many strings through it at the range, and that helped. Sometimes with these really overbore cartridges it's a toss up between finding that most accurate load before you run out of barrel life. The 6mm Mach IV was a similar tale. As was the 7mm-378. - dan
 
Had a 257 STW for a while. Barrel lasted less than 1k rounds before accuracy fell off. I ran it for a couple hundred more and then rebarreled it. Great hunting cartridge though. - dan
Yup, when the barrels on the 25 STW, wore, they wore all the way to the muzzle. There was no question about setting back the shoulders and rechambering to get better accuracy for another 500 rounds.
 
I've been interested in the 25 for the last few years, now that it's really gaining traction I'm really leaning towards it.

Had a heavy barreled 25-06 I recently sold, I was planning on building a lighter -06 but strongly considering a CM now.

Any reason why these wouldn't shoot well with lighter pills? I know they're designed around heavies with high BC's, but I've still got several hundred 110gr ELDxs and some others. Would be nice to be able to use those as well.
 
I've been interested in the 25 for the last few years, now that it's really gaining traction I'm really leaning towards it.

Had a heavy barreled 25-06 I recently sold, I was planning on building a lighter -06 but strongly considering a CM now.

Any reason why these wouldn't shoot well with lighter pills? I know they're designed around heavies with high BC's, but I've still got several hundred 110gr ELDxs and some others. Would be nice to be able to use those as well.
It shouldn't be a problem. Overstabilization isn't really a thing, and I don't think the Creedmoor case can generate the rotational energy in a 1-7" twist barrel to spin them apart.
 
I've been interested in the 25 for the last few years, now that it's really gaining traction I'm really leaning towards it.

Had a heavy barreled 25-06 I recently sold, I was planning on building a lighter -06 but strongly considering a CM now.

Any reason why these wouldn't shoot well with lighter pills? I know they're designed around heavies with high BC's, but I've still got several hundred 110gr ELDxs and some others. Would be nice to be able to use those as well.
I dont see it being a problem. If you have the bullets, do some test loads and see how well they work. You might need to try a couple different powders but you should find something good. If they suck you have a reason to buy other bullets and do more load development!
 
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