I see a 25 RPM in your future!
A simple 25-06 will push the heavy bullets to 3000 plus. The 25-06AI even faster.
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A simple 25-06 will push the heavy bullets to 3000 plus. The 25-06AI even faster.
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The 25’s have seen a resurgence in the past few years. Twenty-five calibers are now in the top 5 PRS calibers with the 25CM, 25x47 Lapua. So everybody is getting on the trend. So, what? I’m not saying it’s a bad thing. New products drive this market. New products encourage folks to spend their hard earned money and new products bring in new shooters, too.
I think that after 140 years of CF cartridge design, we’re limited by physics and there is only so much one can do within the physical limits of brass cartridge design. In addition, there are not many gaps in the spectrum of cartridge calibers. So there really isn’t anything new, is there? The builders built something with a slight tweak of something else and call it new…”the Next Greatest Thing!”.
I look at the 6.5 Creedmore. It’s a fine cartridge with lots of great attributes. It is the most popular new cartridge in decades. But it sure isn’t anything “new”. Consider the 6.5x55SW. It is every bit as good as the 6.5CM and it’s ONLY 130 years old. Consider also the 6.5x47L, and the 260 REM. They isn’t a bit of practical difference in any of them. Only Tweeks of the same thing.
Even though I know this, it doesn’t stop me from dreaming or occasionally spending some money. After all, I still have to try the new stuff out…to see for myself!
I think that after 140 years of CF cartridge design, we’re limited by physics and there is only so much one can do within the physical limits of brass cartridge design. In addition, there are not many gaps in the spectrum of cartridge calibers. So there really isn’t anything new, is there? The builders built something with a slight tweak of something else and call it new…”the Next Greatest Thing!”.
I look at the 6.5 Creedmore. It’s a fine cartridge with lots of great attributes. It is the most popular new cartridge in decades. But it sure isn’t anything “new”. Consider the 6.5x55SW. It is every bit as good as the 6.5CM and it’s ONLY 130 years old. Consider also the 6.5x47L, and the 260 REM. They isn’t a bit of practical difference in any of them. Only Tweeks of the same thing.
Even though I know this, it doesn’t stop me from dreaming or occasionally spending some money. After all, I still have to try the new stuff out…to see for myself!
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If one could legally thread a suppressor onto the end of a shorter barrel here in Canada................Yup, and I'll lead the charge! Fast twist, longer heavier bullets, now shorter barrels.Oh the trends. Marketing for sheep is most humorous. Have we all gone liberal!?
Not so much about what is trendy. Simply about what is better.
117gr LRX must be great. Can't really take advantage of it here range-wise, but it would be awesome. Would like it from a fast twisted 25-06 too.
As usual what this does is give people a rifle thats already twisted for heavy, high BC bullets so they don't need to go custom for it
As usual what this does is give people a rifle thats already twisted for heavy, high BC bullets so they don't need to go custom for it
A 1-10 twist 25-06 will stabilize up to 120 and 125gr bullets just fine, in my experience. Should work with a 117 as well, I'd imagine. - dan
Sorry Dan - that 117 LRX is gonna be too long for a 10 Twist !
Yup but then you have federal come out with the 7mm Backcountry and their peak alloy case and everyone flips a lid cause its not brass and a 7 PRC will do the same thing blah blah blah. But yet when the 7 PRC came out, everyone said it would flop cause the 7 rem mag was KING. You see how this goes???
Companies will never win with the average Elmer Fudd (not calling you out personally) who hasn't bought a new rifle since 1976 when they bought their Remington 7600 pump. And i'm sure it does them just fine and thats their choice not not want to try something new.
But again, don't forget when the 6.5 Creed came out it was a "waste" and "re-inventing the wheel" cause the 260 rem and the 6.5x55 already existed, and i'm sure it was said when the 300 win mag came out, I can just hear it "My 30-06 will do anything I need it too I don't need a new fancy 300"
Barnes doesn't even have a 117gr LRX on their website yet, just the 101gr. The 101gr is 1.209" long, for reference a 25 cal 115gr Berger VLD is 1.188"
RJ and Joel beat me to it lol a standard 1-10 twist 25-06 won't stabilize a 117gr copper projectile. Its way too long.
You are 100% correct. The 25 RPM will look amazing in the safe beside a 25 wssm.
By the way, my last 3 NEW rifles were .375 H&H, .30-06 and .270 Win. Could have bought something "new and improved" if I wanted to. Just didn't value the alleged "improvements" I guess.
But it's your money so spend it however you want.
So my 1-9 twist 26” 257wby shoots a 110 accubond at 3505 with 73gr H1000. Zeroed at 300 yards I can hold on hair to 400 yards, 4 moa at 500 and 6 moa at 600 yards puts me bang on. If I buy the new RPM will the deer be deader? Will the deer be able to tell and say “ wow I must of been shot with the new RPM”.
I believe a number of these new cartridges are the solution to a problem that doesn’t exist.
I believe a number of these new cartridges are the solution to a problem that doesn’t exist.
They won’t, hence my comment about hunting scenarios not target shooting. On paper they all look like they will change the world but in reality at hunting ranges that most of us take our shots it won’t make any difference cause I would say on big games probably most of the shots are taken inside 300m and high bc bullets have little if any advantages on regular length/ weight bullets. Past 500-600m that could be a lot different but I do t shoot game that far so for me I don’t see why I should get the new “kids on the block”…. That said hight velocity high bc bullets will still work at shorter range I assume! We here on cgn are a really little percentage of the hunting community and most hunters don’t even care what they feed there rifle, they don’t even know the difference between cup and core vs bonded bullets some people I know can’t even tell you what rifle they have lol other than the chambering and the colour
. So the majority of the hunting population won’t even know these new cartridges existed let alone what the advantages are!!Quarterman2
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I was really hoping for something that would out run my 257 wby. That being said I am a quarter bore fan so, Im sure Ill end up with a 25 rpm at some point or maybe just throw an new barrel on something I already have. Its something new to pay with. It dosent really do anything special in my opinion. But, half the fun is experimenting with different cartridges.
