257 Roberts VS 25-06 VS .243Win

ciphery said:
OK so what I've learned is that if I reload all my ammo then 257Rob is ok but if not then a 243Win.
Now to choose between a $670 Ruger M77 in 257Rob or a $607 Remington VTR in 243win.
Both are nice guns, the M77 is in "good condition" with a walnut stock that may improve in value with time.
- I would be leary about damaging it further hunting however. Can appreciate the extra power but not the $38 a box ammo or poor 257 bullet selection.
The Rem is NIB and fairly weather resistant and am less leary about bumping this rifle ...
-which will probably depreciate with time. Can appreciate the price and selection of ammo, but leary about the apparent lack of power.
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Have you had a chance to handle the VTR? I'm a remington fan but I wasn't fond of the VTR ... triangles are for math class!
 
Applefarmer said:
Number one poaching round is the .22 mag and you don't think the .243 will work ? my Lord, I thought I was posting to those that knew a little about cartridges and hunting. I've popped more deer with a .223 than most have ever seen in their lives. Do you think I use the 30-30 because it doesn't work, yet the .243 has twice the energy? For 60 plus years the .243 has proven itself to be a more than sufficient round for deer.
Deer are not wearing Armour any more today than they were 60 plus years ago. Get a grip and stop with the Texas heart shots! There is not a rifle made I could not harvest a deer with. Try to actually hit a vital organ.
Have you ever gone done south? I've use a 38spl out of a S&W model 10, a Star BM in 9mm, a .22 mag Marlin, a Savage .223, 10mm 1911, 44mag pistol and rifle, 30-30, 32sp, .357 mag revolver, 6.5x55, 308, 30-06, 7mm rem.mag.. There are those of you that think the .243 won't cut the mustard? Give me a break! It's time you hit the range and actually got up off the bench and shot free hand. Three shots, 5 seconds at a pie plate 100 yrds away.

By the way, a 12ga 3"mag slug out of a rifled barrel will be able to take a deer at 200yds if you know where to hold.
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The reason I said no one would've suggested the 243 is because the 243 rifle he is looking at is a remington VTR. It has a crappy stock and a triangle barrel! I have nothing against the 223 at all. I have a problem with triangles mounted on once great rifle actions.
 
I know it's not one you have asked about, but when faced with a similar decision I ended up going with a .260, 100 gr bullets nip at the heals of a 25-06 and gives you the option to load up to 140gr for the bigger critters.
 
Applefarmer said:
Actually I don't give a hoot, it's the lack of knowledge by posters that rubs my rhubarb.
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Apple

There are all kinds of rifle forums where you can find fellows that prefer 25 cal rifles over 6mm rifles for one reason or another. Likey because they think that they are better. You don't agree well thats OK. FS
 
Fassteel said:
Apple

There are all kinds of rifle forums where you can find fellows that prefer 25 cal rifles over 6mm rifles for one reason or another. Likey because they think that they are better. You don't agree well thats OK. FS
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Actually there is no better. All depends on your hunt and YOUR hunting techniques. Perhaps in a few decades you'll figure it out. My best year is 89 deer, how is your scores?
 
Thanks KDX, and here I thought you knew who I was. ...Just saying, you once questioned the numbers.
Times change, people change, things happen. Here I sit in a wheel chair, who'd a thought.
 
I think we can all agree that Applefarmer likes the 243. IN his opinion there is no better, and our opinions don't matter unless we prove different.

So I went back and read the post over again. I found that only one person disagreed with the 243 for deer, his reason, he had seen it fail 3 different times.

So Mr Applefarmer I kindly ask you please not to refer to me and other as idiots. Just because we do not have your so called experience, until you can prove it to us.
 
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