26 Nosler claim

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What the heck is Nosler claiming with its 26 Nosler advertising? "Flat Out to 415"....

What kind of statement is that? How do they define "Flat"?

Are the inventing a new definition of flat? IE: A drop of less than ###X inches from the muzzles = Flat?

I just don't get it.
 
Yeah, it is on all of their ads that they have been pumping out for the past few months at least. I am wondering what definition they are using if anyone has that published somewhere.
 
This is from their website: "5. Zeroed at 350 yards, the 26 Nosler has a maximum point blank range (PBR) of 415 yards."

So I guess what I am looking for is the definition of MPBR...... Something better defined than "not needing to adjust the crosshair on a deer to a given range" which is one definition I found on the net! haha
 
FROM WIKI:

"Small arms and maximum point-blank range[edit]

Torso Lethal Shot Placement rectangles of 450 × 225 mm (17.7 × 8.85 in) superimposed over silhouetted soldiers. The point-blank lethal zone of a military target is center mass between the waist and the chest.
Small arms are often sighted-in so that the sight line and bullet path are within a certain acceptable margin out to the longest possible range, called the maximum point-blank range. The range of distance inside the maximum point-blank range is greatly dependent on the external ballistics of the cartridge in question; high velocity rounds have long point-blank ranges, while slow rounds have much shorter point-blank ranges. Other factors in the blank range are the target size (which determines how far above and below the line of sight the trajectory may deviate), the height of the sights, and an acceptable drop before a shot is ineffective.[3]

Maximum point-blank range for hunting[edit]

A large target, like the vitals area of a deer, allows a deviation of a few inches (as much as 10 cm) while still ensuring a quickly disabling hit. Vermin such as prairie dogs require a much smaller deviation, less than an inch (about 2 cm).[4] The height of the sights has two effects on point blank range. If the sights are lower than the allowable deviation, then point blank range starts at the muzzle, and any difference between the sight height and the allowable deviation is lost distance that could have been in point blank range. Higher sights, up to the maximum allowable deviation, push the maximum point blank range further from the gun. Sights that are higher than the maximum allowable deviation push the start of the point blank range farther out from the muzzle; this is common with varmint rifles, where close shots are only sometimes made, as it places the point blank range out to the expected range of the usual targets.


Maximum point-blank range for military use[edit]

This sight setting for maximum point-blank range is also referred to in the military as Battle Zero. Soldiers are instructed to fire at any target within this range by simply placing the sights on the center of mass of the enemy target. Any errors in range estimation are tactically irrelevant, as a well-aimed shot will hit the torso of the enemy soldier. The current trend for elevated sights and higher-velocity cartridges in assault rifles is in part due to a desire to extend the maximum point-blank range, which makes the rifle easier to use.[5][6]"



So, the way I read this, there is really no definition to MPBR...??? Winchester could claim "Flat out to 415" if they admitted they were using a MPBR on Gray Whales for reference.


Just seems like a silly statement for Nosler to hang their hats on in their advertising campaign.....
 
I know it clobbers bears and coyotes. 7828 and a 130 TSX; nuttin shoots flatter you know the rest.

And iffen you ever need to shoot the lock off sumpin, its da chit.

What is it with IMR 7828 and Weatherby cartridges? They seem to go together like stink and a monkey. I guess RL25 is right up there if you want something new and fancy.

.....except the 257 :D

I've used the .257, with 75gr X to 120gr Partition and a few in between too.
 
I've got the 80 grain TTSX trucking out at around 3900. Which reminds me, I better shoot something with that. Friends are getting exits on elk.

I was a hair under 4000 with the .257 + RL22 and the old 75gr X. Took a fair amount of boar with it (some buddies used it too) and we never recovered a bullet. I also took a nice whitetail buck with that load.
 
Hmm, 80 grain on elk? I couldn't get the 100 TSX to exit on two broadside shots, but distance was only 150 yards. I have some 80's as well, figured they'd be about perfect for wolf/coyote.

My friend was a game warden in the former Yugoslavia and then Serbia and I sent him a bunch of the original 75gr X for his .243 Winchester. He shot piles of boar with that combo from small to very large and he was happy with the performance. Those big boar are tough - and solid.
 
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