270...can't bang flop?

bigeasy said:
You will find many people are 1/2 minute shooters on these forums and killing big game out past 500 yrds is a regular thing but in reality its BS. The .270 win is a fine cartridge and always will be. Moose, elk, deer, yotes etc have all fallen to the .270 and will continue to do so for many years to come. If half the crowd put down there super magnums and shot guns they could actually shoot without flinching they would soon realize that the .270 is very capable out past most hunters shooting ability.
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i do not agree with this statement one bit, but to each their own.

i shot a 270 husqvarna for the first 10 years that i hunted. Loved it. Shot lots of animals with it. Never had one animal run off. They all dropped like a sack with one shot. Then again, a lot had to do with shot placement. Shot more in the head/neck area but also took a few deer in the heart/lungs. I just recently bought the GF a 270 in a Tikka Laminated Stainless and she loves it. Super easy to load for and very accurate. People say its a shatty cartridge, and to them, i say you are very wrong!!!
 
I have used a Savage in .270 to hunt white tail and mule, never failed to bring them down. Longest I have had to track is about 50 metres, and had two "bang..flops" in the past 7 years. One was a case of me pulling to high and getting the deer through the spine right behind the front "shoulder" and the other was a head shot from about 50 metres (it was a front on shot and I was worried about ruining a big chuck of meat).
 
I have seen smoe animals DRT and some run for 100 meters or so. If they run they are leakin bad, 30-06 is similar, but wrecks more meat. I have used a 243, 257 wby, 264 win, 7rem, 308, 30-06, 300 win, 30-378wby all on WT deer. guess what?????? They all died, but I still had to hit'em where they live. If you don't hit heart/lung or central nervous system, you'll be tracking. That is unless you are using the 30-378, if you miss the head and neck, you'll be throwing alot of meat away.


JT.
 
oh yeah, i used a 270 on about a half dozen deer too. Great rifle for mid sized game, all I ever used was 130 grain Super X power point or remy CoreLokt. Nothing fancy. i have switched to Nosler's in my magnums, but the sad fact is that the cheap stuff works too and works better if you shoot 5 boxes of SuperX as opposed to 1 box of Fedral Premuim due to cost.

JT.
 
FIVE internet sources questioned .270 knock down power.
Now this thread makes six internet sources questioning .270 knockdown power.

This is how BS internet crap becomes "fact". You should learn to be a bit more discriminate.

You got it right in your first post - internet BS. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out.
 
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Funny that internet "experts", as referenced above, say the 270 is an inadequate cartridge for deer, yet the 6.5x55 Swede is a very popular and effective cartridge for MOOSE in Scandinavia/Europe. Even though the 6.5x55 is a much less "powerful" cartridge.

Might it have anything to do with Scandinavian hunters having to qualify, shooting offhand, on a standing and running moose target before they can get their hunting licences? :rolleyes:
 
If some are having problems with regard to lack of bang flops, I'd lay the blame on the bullet, not the cartridge.
There is a tendency now days to use expensive high penetration bullets designed for bigger game. If you use one of these, and then shoot a smaller animal, it may not expand much.
The 270 has the power, the weight, and the sectional density to do a decent job with normal cup and core bullets on thin skinned game like deer and such. Provided you are not one to go for Texas heart shots and the like.
 
I've shot six deer with the same rifle (150gr 303 Brit) and had four bang-flops and two that ran 25-50 yds and then dropped. All were pass-throughs and all were through the rib-cage (lung-shots). Why? Pure speculation.
 
People will always make excuses for their inadequencies.......


God does not shoot a .270...
He uses lightning bolts........
 
Eagleye said:
...The 270 not producing bang-flops.:rolleyes: The fact that some animals die right there and some run anywhere from 20 - 100 or so yards has absolutely nothing to do with the chambering. I suspect that it more often has something to do with the nervous "state" of the animal when it is shot. ...
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Exactly right. Apart from brain and spine shots, some animals will drop on the spot and others will run. I've seen a heart-shot Whitetail deer (two 12 Ga slugs, one through the top half of the heart, the other through the bottom half) still run 30 yards before keeling over. I've seen another deer drop on the spot from a single 30-30 cast bullet into the chest, and then there's everything in between. No rhyme nor reason other than the state of the animal when hit.
 
You guys have it all wrong. You need hydrophloric spasmystic power that only comes from shooting big bullets really fast. The cartridge name needs to have ultra or weatherby in it to create bang-flops. Even the WSM's are week. 70grs of powder. 140gr bullets. Pffftt. Wussies. You need 180gr BT's and a .338 RUM to make it happen.
Make sure that scope is at least 5-27x52mm or you can't see the critter either.
 
the 270 is a proven call and has been for many genarations .it is still made and sold after all these years is a statment in its own .i have had very good luck with the 270 i have shot .you could shot a littel fawn in the azz with a 300 rum or ultra mag and it will run off a ways .yet you shot the same deer in the head with a 22 and bang flop .if people thought for them self .and shot there gus before going hunting thy would not have these conversations .i dod not talk anybodys word when it comes to ammo ar cal i want to shot them and prove to myself that the gun and ammo i chooes to use will do the job i ask of it DUTCH
 
rem338win said:
You guys have it all wrong. You need hydrophloric spasmystic power that only comes from shooting big bullets really fast. The cartridge name needs to have ultra or weatherby in it to create bang-flops. Even the WSM's are week. 70grs of powder. 140gr bullets. Pffftt. Wussies. You need 180gr BT's and a .338 RUM to make it happen.
Make sure that scope is at least 5-27x52mm or you can't see the critter either.
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It's hydrostatic shock, Sheesh, get it right. :cool:
 
SandRoad said:
Funny that internet "experts", as referenced above, say the 270 is an inadequate cartridge for deer, yet the 6.5x55 Swede is a very popular and effective cartridge for MOOSE in Scandinavia/Europe. Even though the 6.5x55 is a much less "powerful" cartridge.

Might it have anything to do with Scandinavian hunters having to qualify, shooting offhand, on a standing and running moose target before they can get their hunting licences? :rolleyes:
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It has to do mostly with people vho voice opinions when they have no actual experience on which to base an opinion.

Everyone is a freaking expert nowdays, even the guys who have never shot game in their life feel a need to share their opinions on it.... some internet cowboy who doesn't have the real world experience to determine the difference between fact and fiction bases his opinion on someone else's imaginary experiences. The internet isn't making us any smarter.
 
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