270 is it to small for moose.

Superbrad said:
Just to make it clear, as Angus has accused me of this in the past (jokingly)....

I have the ability to eat things on the fringe of "food"..... and I understand weight restrictions..... (no offence intended :) .....

But is a can of Dinty Moore or Clarke's Irish and a heel of bread too much to ask?....lol......
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Ok you're going on a coastal Grizz hunt. We are not talking cutsie Koala bears here?! These things are big and bad and not only can but will eat you!! Do you really want this kind of junk to be your last meal because of weight savings?! Screw that, Ardent has a big boat with a big double rifle for protection. Load up the steak and mushrooms!! ;)
 
the spank said:
Ok you're going on a coastal Grizz hunt. We are not talking cutsie Koala bears here?! These things are big and bad and not only can but will eat you!! Do you really want this kind of junk to be your last meal because of weight savings?! Screw that, Ardent has a big boat with a big double rifle for protection. Load up the steak and mushrooms!! ;)
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My hunt won't be grizz..... I have a family to feed.... lol......

I am not that afraid of big bears, but if my last meal was a can of Dinty Moore stew and a heal of bread with butter, before doing what I love best, that would ironically be perfect.......
 
Superbrad said:
..... next thing you know it whynot? will be hunting with a tavor....
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If I were local to him I'd loan him mine just to see what happened.....Wait.....on second thought, he'd probably somehow turn it into a 9.3x62....so maybe I'd just keep it to myself. Yeah, that's a better idea...
 
Superbrad said:
My hunt won't be grizz..... I have a family to feed.... lol......

I am not that afraid of big bears, but if my last meal was a can of Dinty Moore stew and a heal of bread with butter, before doing what I love best, that would ironically be perfect.......
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The bear might find itself less appreciative if his meal if you ate that before he ate you...
 
I'm feeling grateful I don't know what Dinty Moore is, it sounds like a bad detective novel and that never bodes well for cuisine. Mountain house prevents the excretion of solid wastes by the body for no more than a week and therefore aids the hunter in both scent reduction at camp, and removes one morning chore for the duration of the hunt freeing up precious early hours.
 
bearkilr said:
Well, maybe the Nancies who's upper recoil limit is a 270 shouldn't be hunting grizz. :)
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I'm embarrassed to admit, naw I've been in the scotch make that no shame to admit, the guns used have shrunk in importance for me as of late, long as folks can shoot them that's all I care about. Even guided a .375 Ruger with the much maligned DGX bullet in spring for grizzly, two horrible strikes in my former more opinionated ways! Turns out it all works really, smallest cartridge I've seen grizzly taken with is 7x57 and largest .375 and .300 Ultra. All resulted in dead bears, the 7x57 did travel the furthest with equal shot placement to the larger guns but not to the point it became an issue. I had my first couple clients who had issues with their Magnums and it admittedly alters perspective from a guide's point of view.

If a guy can shoot a .375 like a .270 I'm the LAST guy to get in his way! But if a .270 means a Partition in the boiler room rather than a 300gr TSX etc at the back of the rib cage I'm the .270's biggest fan there. And then once we filter it all down the flow chart of these considerations... the .270 and 7x57 indeed kill big bears.
 
Superbrad said:
My CGN world is upside down...... Hoyt bought a 270, Angus is OK with a 270 for grizz and mountain house spaghetti is now considered food...... next thing you know it whynot? will be hunting with a Tavor......

I think this yellow full moon has affected people......

As for me, I will be hunting a monster whitetail that appeared on my cam last week with my girlie 7-08 in the morning...... so I think I am ok?????
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Dorian Gray said:
If I were local to him I'd loan him mine just to see what happened.....Wait.....on second thought, he'd probably somehow turn it into a 9.3x62....so maybe I'd just keep it to myself. Yeah, that's a better idea...
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we have to try to think of Ted with a Tavor ... luckily not legal for a lot things over here lol ... then it will be 9.3x62 or maybe a 340 who knows ....
 
Not much to it story wise, 75 yard shot grizzly walked about 125 yards and laid down in the alders and died. The only additional excitement is checking the blood trail into the alders to see what's at the end. Was a good hit and the water misted off the hair in the right spot so wasn't much mystery what would be at the end of the trail. Believe the bullet was 175gr Hornady Interlock and likely should have been a lighter Partition load, grizzly bears respond to shock and it likely wouldn't have gone half that far to a 140gr Partition. At 175grs the 7x57 is getting homely on velocity, and while it penetrates spectacularly the wound channel is rather unimpressive. This thread's darling the .270 would likely have been better.

Little more detail while I'm at it on other chamberings, the .300 Ultra bear dropped where it stood (Dogleg's with 2 shots, just insurance, didn't take a step), .300 Win grizzlies have seen several now two were this Sept and the heavier bullets allow them to move a little longer than something lighter and faster. The two this Sept were 200gr Speer Bonded Bear Claws, marketed as a dangerous game bullet and load, and while both resulted in dead Grizzlies (I shot the second bear on my resident tag with the client's rifle, so same load and barrel length) but at impact speeds around 2300-2400fps and a stiff bullet not a lot of shock occuring.

Neither bear had the blue screen of death in the brain like the .300 Ultra and .375 Ruger bears, which any movement was just shock before they flopped. The .375 Ruger bear rolled several times and was done at the end of its rolling, doubt its brain had much occurring during those seconds. Both stiff bullet .300 grizzlies swung their heads towards the hit trying to figure what happened, and both were dead on their feet at the first shot but received insurance follow ups (3, and 2 shots total, client's died in the spot it was shot mine went into the river and died).
 
Ardent said:
I'm embarrassed to admit, naw I've been in the scotch make that no shame to admit, the guns used have shrunk in importance for me as of late, long as folks can shoot them that's all I care about. Even guided a .375 Ruger with the much maligned DGX bullet in spring for grizzly, two horrible strikes in my former more opinionated ways! Turns out it all works really, smallest cartridge I've seen grizzly taken with is 7x57 and largest .375 and .300 Ultra. All resulted in dead bears, the 7x57 did travel the furthest with equal shot placement to the larger guns but not to the point it became an issue. I had my first couple clients who had issues with their Magnums and it admittedly alters perspective from a guide's point of view.

If a guy can shoot a .375 like a .270 I'm the LAST guy to get in his way! But if a .270 means a Partition in the boiler room rather than a 300gr TSX etc at the back of the rib cage I'm the .270's biggest fan there. And then once we filter it all down the flow chart of these considerations... the .270 and 7x57 indeed kill big bears.
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Except shooting a 7x57 or 270 doesn't automatically make someone Annie Oakley. ;)
 
I've never used a 270 on moose but I think it would do the job. Mostly I've used a 30-06 and 300 WSM. One moose with a 7mmRM. I favor a slightly larger caliber but sometimes one has to use what they have.
 
270 and 280 are very similar in performance. 280 bullets are a lot harder to find and I would guess more expensive.
 
Amelio said:
270 and 280 are very similar in performance. 280 bullets are a lot harder to find and I would guess more expensive.
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No... .280 "ammunition" is harder to find... .284 bullets are easier to find and have more options than .277 bullets...
 
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