270 is it to small for moose.

the spank said:
I did and since I don't handload .270 is my better option for finding factory ammo. My head is clear Hoyt!! You won't see me on a coastal Grizz hunt with a two sizes too small life jacket and a 500 Mossberg pump for protection! :p
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Hey, hey, hey! It was the only life jacket left, because I kindlt reliquished the adult jackets to my partners (halo)... and it was NOT me carrying the Mossberg.... a vicious and malicious rumour...

But you are correct, 280 is the reloaders choice of the two.
 
hoytcanon said:
No... .280 "ammunition" is harder to find... .284 bullets are easier to find and have more options than .277 bullets...
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Agreed, I view it as do you want light and fast, or heavier and plentiful bullets. What people love about 7mm, heavier bullets and higher BCs, .270 is the other end of the spectrum with a better selection of light for caliber bullets. I've been leaning heavily to the light and speedy side since mountain goats became a business. With premiums a 110gr kills every bit was well as a 150, perhaps better with the speed if you're inside 300ish. I bet that the next trend will be light for caliber, improved BC bullets as the materials and technology begin to allow it. Barnes is basically doing it with bullets like the 80gr .257 TTSX, 110 .277, and 120 7mm. I bet in twenty years the "normal" grain shot for caliber will have crept down a tad, modern premiums don't benefit from the weight as much as old cup and cores and due to the lack of lead are longer / have a higher BC at lighter / faster weights.
 
For deer size game the 270 and 280 are equal. 140 gr in either chambering will do the same thing. The only difference with heavier bullets being the 175 gr for a 280. Then again you can get a 160 gr for 277 dia. So not really much of a difference. If I was in the market for a DEDICATED moose, elk cartridge it wouldn't be a 270 or a 280, I would be looking more towards the 300 mags. The 280 has no real advantage over a 270! NONE;YADDA.
 
Ardent said:
Agreed, I view it as do you want light and fast, or heavier and plentiful bullets. What people love about 7mm, heavier bullets and higher BCs, .270 is the other end of the spectrum with a better selection of light for caliber bullets. I've been leaning heavily to the light and speedy side since mountain goats became a business. With premiums a 110gr kills every bit was well as a 150, perhaps better with the speed if you're inside 300ish. I bet that the next trend will be light for caliber, improved BC bullets as the materials and technology begin to allow it. Barnes is basically doing it with bullets like the 80gr .257 TTSX, 110 .277, and 120 7mm. I bet in twenty years the "normal" grain shot for caliber will have crept down a tad, modern premiums don't benefit from the weight as much as old cup and cores and due to the lack of lead are longer / have a higher BC at lighter / faster weights.
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The way things are evolving bullet wise, I believe you are correct.
Not sure if light and speedy is always the way to go in some cases.
 
So How does the beautiful 7mm08 stack up against the Moose.... :D

has the heavy side of things covered but lacks the Fast side of the spectrum..
WL
 
WhelanLad said:
So How does the beautiful 7mm08 stack up against the Moose.... :D

has the heavy side of things covered but lacks the Fast side of the spectrum..
WL
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I have never hunted with my 7-08, but I tried some hornady superformance ammunition 139 gr. It clocked 3050 fps through my chrony, thats with a 22" barrel.
 
WhelanLad said:
So How does the beautiful 7mm08 stack up against the Moose.... :D

has the heavy side of things covered but lacks the Fast side of the spectrum..
WL
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Shot a big bodied bull - 50" - with my 7x57 and factory RWS 162gr KS bullets. Range was 200 yards, broadside shot. Bull lurched and ran 10 yards and stopped. Hit him again, he wobbled and fell over. Both shots were behind the shoulder, double lung, and both bullets were recovered from under the hide. In hindsight he would have just fallen over from the first shot had I waited a few more seconds.

7x57 and 7mm-08 are pretty much twins (except the 7x57 is infinitely cooler) , so I bet the results would be the same.
 
It is not caliber that kills as much as shot placement and good bullet selection.
To answer your question,.270 will down a moose just fine.
If it dont then it is you,not the .270 or poor bullet selection.
Use Nosler Part. Barnes,swift Aframe or something like that,put it wher it counts and Bon Appetite...
 
Back in '92, my father picked up a Remington 7400 125th anniversary edition in .270. He loved hunting but wasn't a gun nut. Hadn't even heard of a .270 before. He said he liked the way it came up to his shoulder(and the "engraving") and dropped cash on the last big game rifle of his life.

Over the years he killed 8 moose, 7 caribou, 12-14 deer(I lost count) and 1 calf bison. Most animals were shot with 130 gr Hornady SST that I loaded because his favorite Remington Extended Range(later premier boat tail) loads had been discontinued. Good thing, I have several recovered bullets of the Remington that the tip expanded on (yes ladies...just the tip) and then tumbled.

I sighted the rifle in and he only ever shot it at game. ALL animals dropped with 1 shot, with the exception of the calf bison. He claimed he was low on ammo so I loaded up a bunch of the newer Hornady GMX 130 mono bullets as we were not sure if he was going after adults or calves. That animal was hit at 100 yards, and did not react at the first lung shot...so he shot it again. Apparently it turned to look at him like it wasn't hit. Then it fell over stone dead having succumbed to 2 perfect lung shots.

Point is the .270, when matched with the proper bullet to the game, is a perfect all around cartridge for North America for any animal with hooves and black bear. Way too much nonsense concerning hunting deer with .375s going on. Fun if you want to, but unnecessary.

I have a friend that got into hunting a few years ago. Blue collar worker with low education and the stereotypical "tough guy" attitude. Asked my advise for his first hunting rifle. Told him the same I tell everyone. Get a 308/30-06/270 in whatever stainless bolt gun that floats your boat. Easy to learn to shoot and more than enough. And once you decide to try something else specialty for whatever game you are targeting, you have the perfect backup rifle, in a caliber you can find ammo for in any backwoods town, any where in North America.

My friend ignored that advice because his uncle convinced him that anything below a 300 Win Mag was inadequate for moose. He bought a rifle that was ill fit for his short frame, with a scope that was pre mounted by the 6'2" guy at the store. First shot caused a great deal of blood fro a large gash over his eye. He has since mastered the larger gun, but went on that season to wound not 1 but 2 moose with the only thing recovered was some blood.

Funny thing was he started shooting his wife's "lady gun" .270. Killed several moose and bears. Loves the way it shoots.
 
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