280 Remington

280 is a great cartridge. Also used to be known as 7mm Rem Express. Load data is the same as 7 x 64 Brenneke which came out in 1917 if memory serves. Remington re-invented the wheel when they brought out the 280/7 Rem Ex.

Point Blank difference between a 7MM Rem Mag and a 280 is about 15 yards on a 10" target.

I've always said a lot of ppl that feel the need to shoot a magnum would be better served shooting a 280. Milder recoil= better shooting in most cases.

You would not be unhappy or limited (within reaseon) with a 280.

That pretty much answers it, Thanks ABE
 
So the 280AI has more velocity than a 7mm rem mag?:onCrack:
280 and 7 x 64 are ballistic twins.

Speer manual with a 145 gr. shows the 280 at 2975 fps
Same manual with the same bullet shows the 7 Rem mag at 3150 fps

That's just one example, but you can take a look at any number of loads and any nbr of manuals and you will come out with similar results.

I know a lot of 7 Rem Mag owners will dispute this, but bring out your firearms and we'll put em through the chrono.
 
Is your wife a bigger woman? How much is the recoil difference in real terms. A 7 mm recoil is not that of a 300 win:ar15::ar15::ar15::ar15: mag
She's 5'4",130.She also shoots a .300WSM without to much trouble. I used to shoot a Ruger 77 in 7mmRemMag,sold it after I bought the first .280,too much recoil for the differnce in performance,and you could weld with the muzzle flash!If my .280s or my .280AI can't get it done,I step up to the 8mmRemMag. Mur
 
280 and 7 x 64 are ballistic twins.

Speer manual with a 145 gr. shows the 280 at 2975 fps
Same manual with the same bullet shows the 7 Rem mag at 3150 fps

That's just one example, but you can take a look at any number of loads and any nbr of manuals and you will come out with similar results.

I know a lot of 7 Rem Mag owners will dispute this, but bring out your firearms and we'll put em through the chrono.

Not only that but most manuals show loads to a lower pressure than a 280 is capable! I shoot 139s at 3150fps thru my chrony with is 75pfs slower reading than my neighbours. I doubt with serious hand loads in either cartridge you would see a spread any further than 100fps apart.
 
:( Now I have to buy another rifle. Darn:( What Im wondering is why recoil is a prob if a lil woman can handle it. (Im not knocking your wife just wondering why recoil is a problem if the ladies can handle it).:stirthepot2:
She's 5'4",130.She also shoots a .300WSM without to much trouble. I used to shoot a Ruger 77 in 7mmRemMag,sold it after I bought the first .280,too much recoil for the differnce in performance,and you could weld with the muzzle flash!If my .280s or my .280AI can't get it done,I step up to the 8mmRemMag. Mur
 
:( Now I have to buy another rifle. Darn:( What Im wondering is why recoil is a prob if a lil woman can handle it. (Im not knocking your wife just wondering why recoil is a problem if the ladies can handle it).:stirthepot2:

Recoil is as much a stock factor as anything.
I had a Parker Hale in 7rem mag that would kick the snnot right out of you!
 
Recoil is as much a stock factor as anything.
I had a Parker Hale in 7rem mag that would kick the snnot right out of you!
X2 both my wife's rifles wears R-3 pads and the McMillan stocks seem to suit her very well.She doesn't like the 8mmMag much tho'! Mur
 
The two threads are interesting. One is about guns used in Africa and another about a 280. It seems any magnum has too much kick but a huge momma is needed for Africa.
 
hi everyone i just new to the sight and looking for some help...im looking to buy a model 700 action to put in a custom .280 and cant find one can anyone help.. or can anyone suggest a better action for this gun
 
Yo SENIOR. 139 is my what my 280AI likes. I have always liked Hornady bullets...and your right, not much spread, but lets not make the 7 Rem Mag guys mad. And as you say Stk configuration has a boatload to do with felt recoil.

Nice car, by the way. Mines a '71 ..454..Sunflower, Originally an LS 5 car. Original blowed up so did another 454 bored 40 with some stuff. Rear end went this year so put a set of 355's in. 400 turbo with a kit and high stall. 50' of rubber goin into second with 275's on it. Interior and exterior all stk,restored, frame off resto.
 
Nice Ackley, did you post a pic in the Car thread?? Mines a driver, go to a few cruises & stuff, 427 stroked 1/4" ;), dropped comp to 9/1, it'll even run fine on reg gas:)
Sorry no more highjack:redface:

Yes 280 is so close to the 7rem mag, I think the only real diff might be if your into shooting heavy bullets.
 
SENIOR: Not computor lit nuff to post pics. I can send it via email if you want to pm me your email address. 427 ey.. Must be a 69 or 70. I drive mine to work everyday the sun shines. No garge queens for me. I call mine a 15 ft car. At 15 ft you can't see the minor rock chips on the paint.
 
.280Rem is very similar to 7x64, which is in Europe what .30-06 in North America
Actually, the Euro equivalent to 30-06 is 8x57JS.
Most would say it's closer to 308 Win but the emphasis on heavier bullets makes 8mm closer to '06.
The 280 Rem is of course practically identical to 7x64 and it is a highly regarded round.
My next bolt gun will be chambered in either of these 2 7mm rounds because of their extreme flexibility and capability.
 
I know the point he was making, but I'd still maintain that the 8mm is a more popular cartridge there and in fact, strange as it may seem, the '06 is possibly more popular in Europe these days than the 7x64.
As far as popularity AND performance you'd be closer comparing the 7x64 to the 270 Win although, much like many cartridges, the Europeans stick to heavier bullets.
I could be wrong but there are a lot of European rifles made in '06 these days and when you speak to European hunters it is a common round.
But we're sorta straying from the thread here.
 
Given a choice it would make more sense to get a 30-06. Better choice of ammo readily available. Ballistics are close. I have a 270 win and do like the 7mm family.
 
Given a choice it would make more sense to get a 30-06. Better choice of ammo readily available. Ballistics are close. I have a 270 win and do like the 7mm family.

Are you new to the internet? This is the second (that I know of) decade old thread that you have resurrected... getting use out of the search function, I'm guessing...
 
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