30-06 vs 7mm rem mag

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Here is a hunting camp connversation that took place regarding wich back up rifle to use.
Both rifles were the same make and model only difference is cartridge.We were hunting moose in an area that has it's share of grizz.Shots on the moose could come at 25-350 yards,the grizz would be in "defence of life".Both rifles ammo consisted of handloads using hornady flat based interlocks.
7mm Rem mag - 175gr@2900fps
30-06 - 180gr@2800fps
 
Haven't we done this before, like a hundred times.
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Niether are even remotely optimal for "defence of life" situations. If I had to choose I'd say .30-06, but with 200 or 220gr bullets. And I would use Partitions or Swift A-Frames. If you must stay with the 180gr, then I'd use Barnes TSX.
 
"In defense of life" situations, if a person actually planned them, neither cartridge would be my choice.
however, If I was hunting moose , it could be with either, whether in grizzly country or not.
In a situation where one's life is a risk at close quarters, shot palcement is everything ( I have some experience with that).

The last thing I would be worried about is if I brought enough gun!
You might as well put yourself on a platter from the getgo then....
Cat
 
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In 1964 the 7mm.rem mag was brought out to extend montana elk hunters range by 100yds.if my memory serves me
I pick the 7mm...if the 06 was brought out todaY I think it would be a sales flop...no disrespect to it thou.
 
LOL Wilson you kill me. The 30-06 a sale flop?? A lot has changed in the last 100 years but even todays hunters aren't stupid. If it was introduced today people would recognize it for what it is. A highly effective North American do it all cartridge that can fit all types of actions, is accurate, and doesn't kick the heck out of you. In another 100 years I would bet all the new Ultra Mag,SAUM and so on will be viewed as flops when compared to 30-06 sales during that time. Hard to improve on something that does most things well. As far as choosing between the 2 cartridges and loads in the situation mentioned above, there is no difference!!! Answers like that don't sell articles though so I wouldn't make a good writer I guess.

Greg
 
The 30-06 is hardly a sales flop... every major manufacturer is still chambering for this round. The idea that the WSM's will be viewed as a sales flop are rediculous as well... they are outselling everything including the 30-06 in most parts of North America.
As per the question... the 7mm is a winner.
 
For grizzly, neither. For less dangerous North American game, 7mm Rem Mag may get the nod. However, for me, it'll always be the 30-06.
 
Time will tell on the Short Mags etc. There have been many calibers that went hard but burnt out fairly fast. All we know right now is short term success of these new calibers. My point is, very few chamberings have the long term staying power of the 30-06. One hundred years of new chamberings proves this point. I doubt the newest/latest whiz bang cartridge is going to buck this trend over the long run. This isn't to say that some of them or even all of them aren't great rounds. In retrospect there is a difference between the backup rifles in 7mm/06. It's 2 rounds of magazine capacity.


Greg
 
Wilson said:
In 1964 the 7mm.rem mag was brought out to extend montana elk hunters range by 100yds.if my memory serves me
I pick the 7mm...if the 06 was brought out todaY I think it would be a sales flop...no disrespect to it thou.
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Warren Page figured the 7mm caliber was a good compramise for a World wide hunter with bullets from 160 to 175 grains.
he wasa driving force behind the 7mm Remington magnum, and hunter all over the World with wildcats that preceeded it.

The Elk thing may have been a sales pitch, but I doubt if it was the main goal.

Just a side not from this debate!:D
cat
 
I'd most likely choose the '06... it will be chambered in a Rifle with a shorter barrel then the 7 mag & will hurt far less when the Bear stuffs it up your Ars:rolleyes:

Seriously though, niether is what I'd want as a "Stopper" rifle.....
However the edge in Horsepower goes to the 7mag and for this reason I'd take it for this given purpose over the 06, although either would do in a pinch ;) (maybe ?:redface: )
 
1899 said:
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Niether are even remotely optimal for "defence of life" situations. If I had to choose I'd say .30-06, but with 200 or 220gr bullets. And I would use Partitions or Swift A-Frames. If you must stay with the 180gr, then I'd use Barnes TSX.
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or those new 240 gr bullets that people have been talking about.
ttyal
Riley
 
I have both. I always reach for the 7mm. That is why I am selling the 30-06. Why the 7mm? It feels like a part of me when I shoot it. It is not so much the caliber, but the whole package. In the original question of the the life and death senario, I want a rifle that I am comfortable with. Also my 7mm doesn't have a iron sights, so it should hurt less when "the Bear stuffs it up my Arse."

I do think that both are rather light on Grizzly at only a couple of feet. But something is better than nothing!
 
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