30-06 vs 7mm rem mag
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Both rifles perform the task.
I guess having the word "Magnum" in the title gives the 7mm a few more "Cool factor" points.
Perhaps in the case of the 30-06 we should subsitute "Binford" for "Springfield".
Can you imagine......
"Whatcha shootin', Bob?"
"Why that's the new 30-06 Binford, Cecil"
"Wow", says Cecil"
I guess having the word "Magnum" in the title gives the 7mm a few more "Cool factor" points.
Perhaps in the case of the 30-06 we should subsitute "Binford" for "Springfield".
Can you imagine......
"Whatcha shootin', Bob?"
"Why that's the new 30-06 Binford, Cecil"
"Wow", says Cecil"
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hakx said:
Maybe it should be
" What's that , Tim?"
It's the new Binford 30-06 , Al.
But I did a few things to it, hopped up tha capacity with some faster powder and a magnum primer, just watch this!"
At this time Al heads for
the hills!!Cat
Either will do in a pinch, but for close in work a .35 Whelen, .45-70 or even a .338 Win Mag would be better choices. The 7mm is more in its element beyond 300yards, however, I'd go for the .30-06 with 220 gr bullets if available, if not, the 7mm with 175gr pills.
I'm a recent "convert" to the 7RM and I absolutely love it! I've picked up three different 7mm Rem Mags in the past year...haven't bought a .30-06 in years...however, I suspect that 100 years from now my great grandkids will be reading articles about the .30-06 turning 200! I seriously doubt cartridges like the .325WSM or .223WSSM will still be around by then! I'd put money on the .223, .22-250, .243, .270, .308, 7mm Rem Mag, .300 Win Mag and the .30-06 still being available on store shelves though! (And .45ACP, .38/.357 Mag, .44Mag too!)
I'm a recent "convert" to the 7RM and I absolutely love it! I've picked up three different 7mm Rem Mags in the past year...haven't bought a .30-06 in years...however, I suspect that 100 years from now my great grandkids will be reading articles about the .30-06 turning 200! I seriously doubt cartridges like the .325WSM or .223WSSM will still be around by then! I'd put money on the .223, .22-250, .243, .270, .308, 7mm Rem Mag, .300 Win Mag and the .30-06 still being available on store shelves though! (And .45ACP, .38/.357 Mag, .44Mag too!)
Hey Stubblejumper
All the 06's I own hold 5+1 and there is a few of them. My 7mm's hold 3+1 so I'm not sure what you mean about 1 round difference? These are pretty standard mag capacities for the 2 rounds mentioned as well as others with the same case dimensions. Do you own guns that hold more/less? Just curious is all.
Greg
All the 06's I own hold 5+1 and there is a few of them. My 7mm's hold 3+1 so I'm not sure what you mean about 1 round difference? These are pretty standard mag capacities for the 2 rounds mentioned as well as others with the same case dimensions. Do you own guns that hold more/less? Just curious is all.
Greg
-06 vs 7mmRM. The classic debate continues. And I'll stubbornly cling to the 7mm. The 7mm slightly edges the -06 out in almost every category, at least on paper.
Old geezer-types tend to stubbornly cling to the old ought-six, and it'll certainly suffice.
Just not as good as the big seven
Old geezer-types tend to stubbornly cling to the old ought-six, and it'll certainly suffice.
Just not as good as the big seven
Crap I do not think I am an old geezer and I will lean towards the old ought six,but both are great cartridges.I happen to have an ought six so I guess I am biased.Did all my hunting for 20 years with that cartridge alone before I started playing around with others.Either one would feel alot better in my hands than any handgun!!!!
The remington 700,the browning a-bolt,the ruger 77,and the savage bolt actions all list magazine capacity for the 30-06 at 4 rounds,and for the magnums 3 rounds.I other words 4 out of the 5 most common bolt action magazines hold 4 rounds in 30-06.
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The 06 is like the DC-3 of aviation, where as the 7 mag is like the F-18 hornet.
Frank
Frank
200-250 ft lbs of energy ain't alot of difference to go and spend a grand on justin case a bear shows up. The bear won't know the difference.
Of course if the coolness police show up, and you're caught carrying something 100 years old and it doesn't have the word magnum attached to it, the fines can be devestating.
I got close to getting caught once, so I started using magnum primers, just in case. :grin:
Of course if the coolness police show up, and you're caught carrying something 100 years old and it doesn't have the word magnum attached to it, the fines can be devestating.
I got close to getting caught once, so I started using magnum primers, just in case. :grin:
I should know better but I'm going to step into this one. FWIW, I resent being classified as an "old geezer type" But I will give another vote to the '06. I have owned both chamberings for the past 25 years, and the difference is a lot less than most perceive. The 7mm does shoot a bit flatter, particularly with bullets of 160 grains down. The energy difference between the two is not a lot. The deciding factor is the bullet I can use in the '06, and my choice when moose hunting in Grizz country is the 200 Partition. I can launch this bullet at 2700 out of a 24" '06, and it does penetrate, believe me!! So well that I have yet to recover one from a moose or an elk. Some have suggested the big 220 grain pill...hard to argue with that at close range. I would think that at just over 2500, a 220 Partition would be a pretty solid package to make ole grizz sick in a hurry. If I HAD to use the 7mm, I would want the 175 grain Partition or TSX driven as hard as it was safe to. Regards, Eagleye
But I will give another vote to the '06. I have owned both chamberings for the past 25 years, and the difference is a lot less than most perceive. The 7mm does shoot a bit flatter, particularly with bullets of 160 grains down. The energy difference between the two is not a lot. The deciding factor is the bullet I can use in the '06, and my choice when moose hunting in Grizz country is the 200 Partition. I can launch this bullet at 2700 out of a 24" '06, and it does penetrate, believe me!! So well that I have yet to recover one from a moose or an elk. Some have suggested the big 220 grain pill...hard to argue with that at close range. I would think that at just over 2500, a 220 Partition would be a pretty solid package to make ole grizz sick in a hurry. If I HAD to use the 7mm, I would want the 175 grain Partition or TSX driven as hard as it was safe to. Regards, Eagleye
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tough call here on what to agree on and as eagle eye stated l should know better then to step into this,but when l first started guiding l used a 7 mm rm with 195 grain barnes,@ 2730and l must say there isnt a creature around that would stand up to that bullet with a good shot,but then l guess the same could be said for the 30-06,but since l own half a dozen 7 mm's lm biased,so 7mm it is for me also .
tough call here on what to agree on and as eagle eye stated l should know better then to step into this,but when l first started guiding l used a 7 mm rm with 195 grain barnes,@ 2730and l must say there isnt a creature around that would stand up to that bullet with a good shot,but then l guess the same could be said for the 30-06,but since l own half a dozen 7 mm's lm biased,so 7mm it is for me also .
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I was looking for what you guys might say if you were sitting around the same wood stove I was when the the subject came up.My thoughts were:
No real difference in killing power,on either moose or bear.Which one do ya like?
That did't seem to stop the talk,it was just too much fun
Me? I like girth!
No real difference in killing power,on either moose or bear.Which one do ya like?
That did't seem to stop the talk,it was just too much fun
Me? I like girth!
As much as I like the 7mmremmag and even moreso the 7mmstw,when I am in grizzly country,I carry the 300ultramag launching the 180gr tsx at 3380fps.Just under 4600fps of energy at the muzzle, a bullet offering enough penetration to go end to end on a bear,and a flatter trajectory than either the 30-06 or the 7mmremmag.
