300 or 7mm mag?
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The .270 will kill moose just as dead as a 7mm or .300 WM. Have you considered high end scope, binoculars or spotting scope in stead? The Hawkeye is a pretty new rifle, is it that you don't like it?
Or keep the .270 and go for a 9.3x62.
Come on, the man wants a new rifle....don't try and talk him out of it.....more guns are good.
Go for the .300!
My choice would be a single shot s/s synt TC Pro Hunter in 300 WM with a 28" fluted barrel and with an overall length less than the Tikka T3 Lite with a 24" barrel, also in 300 WM.
I would also consider a 338 in the Pro Hunter but I would always recommend anyone considering this caliber for the first time, to test the recoil first. A lot of shooters find the recoil a bit high.
The stock design on the Pro Hunter is such that the felt recoil is considerably reduced - around 43% claimed.
The single shot feature is not really a handicap - I've never had to take a second shot on a large game but if you have to, you can reload the Pro Hunter very quickly using a cartridge saddle on the butt stock, etc.
I have owned a wide range of 300 WM including Sakos, Tikkas, Remingtons, Brownings, Winchesters, etc, but my favorite ones have been the Pro Hunter and the Tikka T3 for moose hunting. For a repeater, I prefer one with a DM for convenience.
My 2 cents,
Duke1
PS. The 35 Whelen is also an excellent big game caliber but I would not put it on par with either the 300 WM or 338 not to mention the difficulty in buying ammo for it. This is my favorite caliber for heavy bush hunting for deer where I use 250 gr or 200 gr bullets.
I would also consider a 338 in the Pro Hunter but I would always recommend anyone considering this caliber for the first time, to test the recoil first. A lot of shooters find the recoil a bit high.
The stock design on the Pro Hunter is such that the felt recoil is considerably reduced - around 43% claimed.
The single shot feature is not really a handicap - I've never had to take a second shot on a large game but if you have to, you can reload the Pro Hunter very quickly using a cartridge saddle on the butt stock, etc.
I have owned a wide range of 300 WM including Sakos, Tikkas, Remingtons, Brownings, Winchesters, etc, but my favorite ones have been the Pro Hunter and the Tikka T3 for moose hunting. For a repeater, I prefer one with a DM for convenience.
My 2 cents,
Duke1
PS. The 35 Whelen is also an excellent big game caliber but I would not put it on par with either the 300 WM or 338 not to mention the difficulty in buying ammo for it. This is my favorite caliber for heavy bush hunting for deer where I use 250 gr or 200 gr bullets.
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BrotherRockeye
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- Rural Saskatchewan
I like my .300wsm
o'course I'm still sour over the whole Metric system change over and refuse to own anything with a mm designation
o'course I'm still sour over the whole Metric system change over and refuse to own anything with a mm designation
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- WMU248 near Edmonton
I have both, not much difference
heavier bullets available for the 300WM, but really the 7mmRM will do just fine for any game your shooting.
So what ever floats your boat
heavier bullets available for the 300WM, but really the 7mmRM will do just fine for any game your shooting.
So what ever floats your boat
.300 Win Mag
Sticking to the two choices you've outlined.... I chose .300 Win Mag.
I have owned a couple different .300 Win Mags and shot a few others belonging to friends. Currently, I have a Browning A-bolt composite stalker in .300 Win Mag purchased specifically for the 26" barrel. My pet load of 70 grain IMR 4350 behind a 180 gr JSP prints sub 1" 3 shot groups at 100 yards. That particular load has shot well in every .300 WM I've owned and also those others that I've shot. While I've shot the 7mm Rem Mag, having the .300 Win Mag already, I see no need of one.
My .02.............
Sticking to the two choices you've outlined.... I chose .300 Win Mag.
I have owned a couple different .300 Win Mags and shot a few others belonging to friends. Currently, I have a Browning A-bolt composite stalker in .300 Win Mag purchased specifically for the 26" barrel. My pet load of 70 grain IMR 4350 behind a 180 gr JSP prints sub 1" 3 shot groups at 100 yards. That particular load has shot well in every .300 WM I've owned and also those others that I've shot. While I've shot the 7mm Rem Mag, having the .300 Win Mag already, I see no need of one.
My .02.............
I have both in the exact same gun (Ruger #1) and while the .300 kicks more, the only time I really noticed was when sighting the .300 in. 30 rounds and I was done. I was going to go get a Limbsaver put on, but I figured that is the most I'd ever shoot the gun in 1 afternoon, I likely wouldn't be taking that many shots together again. For hunting, where 3 shots in a day would be a stretch, so I don't think the kick matters much.
When comparing two identical rifles, recoil is a simple calculation that is based on gun weight, bullet weight, powder weight and velocity so it all depends on the load and what rifle. Just because one guy's Model 70 kicks less than another guy's Remington really means nothing. Do a search for recoil calculators and run the numbers and you'll see that with similar weight bullets that recoil is similar. Felt recoil is a whole nother ball of wax and is truly subjective but when comparing two calibres in the same rifle, the calculator is the only accurate measure.
338 Federal does have advantages over a 3006, but the 30-06 will work very well too
Ive shot moose with 7mm Mag, 30-06, & 416 Rem Mag. They all work the sameI'm still wondering why you want to go to a 7mm RM or a .300WM for hunting moose and elk when you already own a .270 Winchester. Quite frankly I don't see any practical reason to make that switch. Are you unhappy with the .270? Did you have a bad experience with it? Are your friends bugging you that it is not enough gun?
Do you reload? Do you have lots of experience shooting or hunting? Either of the magnums will recoil more than your .270 in similar rifles. Do you like to shoot lots? What else will you be hunting and how often?
Do you reload? Do you have lots of experience shooting or hunting? Either of the magnums will recoil more than your .270 in similar rifles. Do you like to shoot lots? What else will you be hunting and how often?
1899, you of all people should realize there is no practical reason to buy a new gun.........I'm sure you have a couple calibres that offer similar performance?????
The only question is why not......
