300 savage
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Once the 308 was brought out (it is actually based on the 300 savage) it took over in popularity. I shot my first deer with a 300 savage many years ago. (in a model 99 F) I foolishly traded that rifle for something else, probably a 308. I have just recently solved that problem by buying another 99F in 300 savage. With handloads with a max load of RL15 and 165 gr bullets I'm grouping 1 1/2" at 100 yards. Nothing wrong with the caliber and usually a great shooter.
ask Savage they will build one for you. they still have the reamer.
and it s not because you dont find one on the shelf that a caliber it s obsolete ... im still surprised that in Yukon some people are still in use for hunting ....
there is a lot of calibers working somewhere but not on our market like the 6,5x57, 7x64, 9,3x62, 8x68s and so on .... are they obsolete because we re not using them ? or as Paul SC is saying, building one just to let the tradition still being there for this wonderful caliber. after 3 black bears and 4 caribous down with one bullet each cant say it s obsolete ...
all the best.
I saw some .300 savage at the CT here in Yellowknife 2 days ago. They always stock it. I know 5 or 6 guys up here that at least use their .300savages at least once or twice a year. They ALWAYS take it to the cabin for bears. 99's are pretty handy for that purpose.
It is a very effecient little cartridge, with exceptionally mild recoil. It works very well on deer - and deer are the most often pursued big game animals in North America. Not only that, but with good bullets it is, imo, acceptable on larger ungulates as well.
Consider some loads from Barnes' #1 Manual:
For their 100gr bullet there are two powders that exceed 3000fps with 34.0gr charges, and one that does the same with 35.0gr.
For the 115gr bullet 2 powders exceed 2800fps with only 32.0gr charges. These loads will still have less than 10 ft-lbs of recoil in a 6.5lb rifle!
From Barnes' web loading guide:
The 80gr TTSX gets past 3100fps using only 35gr of IMR 4895, and with 41gr of Big Game it reaches 3282fps.
It offers quite a bit in a small, efficient package.
My grandfather has left his guns to my father and between me and my dad we've got a lot of rifles but one is a pump remington in 300 savage. I've never shot it but I know its killed prolly 40-50 deer as it was his fav rifle for hunting manitoulin island. I think ill take it out this fall and shoot it
Cause it works...........I have a Rem 700 Classic .250-3000 that will never be sold............dropped deer /antelope out to 300 yards.............zero recoil...............very efficient.......oh and an old Sav99...............Harold................300 Sav can be made from readily available .308 win brass FL sized and trimmed.42gr Win 748/150gr or 40gr of the same /180gr bullet
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Is the .308 inferior to the .30-06? Is the .30-06 inferior to the .300 H&H? Is the .300 H&H inferior to the .300 Winchester magnum? If that's the case we should all shoot a .30-378.
Inferiority is left to the eyes of the judgemental. For those who enjoy their choice of cartridge, that's what this game is all about.
I thought that the purpose of this thread was to "judge" the 300 Savage. If I had known its purpose was to talk about how someone's Grampie had shot 30 deer with a 300 Savage, and that it's a good deer cartridge, I would have passed.
I could not counsel anyone to buy a 300 Savage over a 308 Winchester - the latter does everything of the former and more.
That is not my thinking.
The 250 Savage was dubbed the 250-3000, because of its velocity. However, that 3,000 fps, is only with 87 grain bullets. The other common weight of bullet for it, the 100 grain, is only in the 2850 fps range.
The 243 has a great variety of bullet weights, from 55 to about 107 grains.
The 100 grain 243 bullet, with a better BC than the 250 Savage, leaves the muzzle about 250 fps faster than the 100 grain 250 Savage, in the 3100 fps range.
See my previous post - unless you are talking about factory ammo, in which case you are right. The .250 Savage will exceed 3000 fps with 100gr bullets, so it really gives up nothing in practical terms to the .243 Win - in fact the .243 requires about 15-20% more powder to reach the same velocity (3000fps).
And, as I mentioned earlier, for heavier game it does quite well with 115gr and 120gr bullets at 2700-2800fps; those heavier bullets are not an option with the .243 Win.
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The 308win is a slightly better all around cartridge. For the average hunter they would never find the advantage of the 308 over the 300sav.
The 300sav has about 15% less recoil and that is quite noticeable for most shooters.
The 300sav was at its best in the Model 99 and the Model 760 Rem pump, both guns had decent open sights and where fast handling for the close stuff and both shot well enough to utilize the useful range of the cartridge when scoped.
There is a lot more selection of loaded ammo for the 308win and it is just about chambered in every style of firearm available(maybe all)
The 300sav has about 15% less recoil and that is quite noticeable for most shooters.
The 300sav was at its best in the Model 99 and the Model 760 Rem pump, both guns had decent open sights and where fast handling for the close stuff and both shot well enough to utilize the useful range of the cartridge when scoped.
There is a lot more selection of loaded ammo for the 308win and it is just about chambered in every style of firearm available(maybe all)
