300Win Mag V.S 7mm Rem

no it's not
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Depends. A hot load in a 7mm with 140gr Accubonds is very flat shooting.
3340fps PBR is 328 yards with a zero of 279 yards
400 yards -9.6"
450 yards -15.7"
500 yards -23.3"

A .300 Win Mag with 180gr Accubonds @ 3100fps gives PBR of 308 yards with zero of 261 yards.
400 yards -12.6"
450 yards -20.0"
500 yards -27.1"

But a 150gr Accubond at 3420fps out of a .300 WM will give you a PBR of 332 with zero of 282
400 yards -9.2"
450 yards -15.3"
500 yards -22.9"

a difference of 0.4" at 500 yards. Seems like an academic difference at best.

Note: these velocities are out of the Nosler manual, so take it with a grain of salt.
 
to be fair you must compare loads using bullets with similar sectional densities to get an idea downrange


7mm Rem Mag 140 gr. Ballistic Tip @ 3300 fps
+/- 3" Point Blank Range of 326 yards (277 yard zero)
100y - 3100 fps, 2985 ft-lbs, +2.4"
200y - 2910 fps, 2630 ft-lbs, +2.6"
300y - 2725 fps, 2305 ft-lbs, -1.3"
400y - 2550 fps, 2020 ft-lbs, -9.9"
500y - 2380 fps, 1760 ft-lbs, -23.8"

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300 Win Mag 165 gr. Ballistic Tip @ 3200 fps
+/- 3" Point Blank Range of 318 yards (270 yard zero)
100y - 3000fps, 3300 ft-lbs, +2.4"
200y - 2810 fps, 2890 ft-lbs, +2.5"
300y - 2625 fps, 2525 ft-lbs, -1.8"
400y - 2450 fps, 2200 ft-lbs, -11.2"
500y - 2280 fps, 1910 ft-lbs, -26.4"


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7mm Rem Mag 175 gr. Partition @ 2900 fps
+/- 3" Point Blank Range of 291 yards (246 yard zero)
100y - 2730 fps, 2895 ft-lbs, +2.6"
200y - 2565 fps, 2550 ft-lbs, +2.0"
300y - 2405 fps, 2250 ft-lbs, -3.9"
400y - 2250 fps, 1975 ft-lbs, -15.8"
500y - 2105 fps, 1725 ft-lbs, -34.5"

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300 Win Mag 200 gr. Partition @ 2900 fps
+/- 3" Point Blank Range of 289 yards (245 yard zero)
100y - 2715 fps, 3275 ft-lbs, +2.6"
200y - 2540 fps, 2860 ft-lbs, +2.0"
300y - 2370 fps, 2490 ft-lbs, -4.0"
400y - 2205 fps, 2160 ft-lbs, -16.3"
500y - 2050 fps, 1865 ft-lbs, -35.6"






I dont consider two inches at over a quarter mile to be 'flatter shooting', not in the real world. The bigger impact energy of the 300 makes up for the difference.
 
how many bullest you plan to shoot a year?
if more than 100 , than 308 is a good choice.
if less than 50, anything would do.
Chances for you to miss are likely increased. with a larger calibre.

if you don't shoot a lot use a good rest and lost of sandbags for sighting in.
good padding helps too.

at high velocities the 300 WM needs a premium bullet.
the ammo will cost you a lot more, further messing your practice
 
to be fair you must compare loads using bullets with similar sectional densities to get an idea downrange
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I was just seeing how flat you can get. IMHO any of the loads listed is more than adequate for deer, and will do in a pinch if a moose drops by. For really flat shooting check out Lost River Ballistics' J36 bullet. In a 140gr 7mm it has a BC of .644! As a note to the 6.5mm fans, their 120gr has a BC of .687 :!:

http://www.lostriverballistic.com/LRB/CategoryShow.cfm?CNum=10
 
Looking for an allarounder?
The 30-06 is king of the do-alls,but if you must pick between the two...
Don't get a .300wm.It will dislocate your shoulder, detatch your retina and give you a shock wave vasectomy.The upside is your moose will gutted and hanging in a tree.
And so continues the legend:)
 
true north said:
Looking for an allarounder?
The 30-06 is king of the do-alls,but if you must pick between the two...
Don't get a .300wm.It will dislocate your shoulder, detatch your retina and give you a shock wave vasectomy.The upside is your moose will gutted and hanging in a tree.
And so continues the legend:)
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wow...and a 7mm kicks like a bb gun and riley has past puberty :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D


oh and I havent reloaded YET for my 300 but the fusion 180Grs fly pretty dam good out of that tikka :)
 
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Funy thing is I have a buddy who truly believes that .300wm stuff.On a serious note,I do believe a 30-06 is the way to go in this instance bit would lean toward the .300wm if forced to choose between a 7 rm and a .300wm just 'cause I like them too.
And as for Death Junky,here is a recipe for a few chuckles
click on his name
click on "find more posts"
Crack a cold one:D :D :D
Kind of like an online Ricky
 
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Win94 said:
.....7mm vs 300 win mag

...........Talk about splitting hairs. :rolleyes: another worthless thread with over 30 posts. And you folks make fun of Death Junky:rolleyes:
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this comming from the guy thart just reposted ever stupid caliber debate from the last year?

:rolleyes: funny, real funny......

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this comming from the guy thart just reposted ever stupid caliber debate from the last year?
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......that was my point. Talk about rehashing the rehashed!! Put the bullet in the vitals and shut the hell up!!! We are starting to look like the idiots on the golf channel and having 50 different shows a week on putting. Just put the godamn ball in the friggen hole and get on with it!!!!:D



....................Oh yeah, 300 Win mag. Because well, er oh yeah it has Win in the title!!! Bwahahahah!!!!!!:D
 
I think there is a significant difference between 7mm mag and a 300 Win. Lots of 7's can't reproduce manual/factory velocites without getting pressure spikes, lots of guys who think they are shooting 140's at 3300 are really shooting them at 3100, 160's at 3000 really 2800. The 7mm mag is really a 280 with more powder and no real gain. The 300 Win is not loaded hot and isn't prone to the same pressure spikes, 180 gr at 3100 fps hits very hard and is eality attaniable in most rifles.
 
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