300WSM V 7mm RM

Hey bud, that wasnt a attack on you... i simply just let it be known the trade off is worth F/A..
300wsm would be absolutley great, for NZ tahr.

Anything you can comfortably shoot accuratley over longer ranges would be fine.

Tarh is a one off thing, the rest will be Fallow an Sambar deer.
 
WhelanLad said:
Hey bud, that wasnt a attack on you... i simply just let it be known the trade off is worth F/A..
300wsm would be absolutley great, for NZ tahr.

Anything you can comfortably shoot accuratley over longer ranges would be fine.

Tarh is a one off thing, the rest will be Fallow an Sambar deer.
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Not to worry Pard. I never took it as such.
Dont want to hijack this thread but is it true Aussie land is embarking on getting rid of all non-native species?
I'd be game for a trip down just to shoot rabbits but Asian Buff would be the icing on the cake!
 
Shoot me a PM, keep it on track :)
im sure im not the only bloke who might be tossing up about 300wsm an 7mm, could be a handy thread.

but of course, no government wants non natives around, good luck to us who try, we will never succeed. but its fun tryin haha
 
DOUGLAS D said:
Oddly enough its also the toughest caliber to sell in a used rifle.
Wonder why that is?
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Not sure, I have never sat down and did the stats, kind of a retarded question if you ask me. Caliber is 7mm or .284 not that hard to sell, at least get wording correct.
 
noneck180 said:
Not sure, I have never sat down and did the stats, kind of a retarded question if you ask me. Caliber is 7mm or .284 not that hard to sell, at least get wording correct.
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Kind of a retarded reply but I expected as much from you.
Congrats on doing the metric conversion though. Shows you made it through grade 7.
 
I'm not much of a fan of the new crop of short cartridges. If I needed a .300 magnum, I'd opt for a .300 Winchester, Weatherby, or H&H. The 7mm Remington is a good flat shooting cartridge on par with the .280 AI, but you can't find 7mm bullets that weigh as much as .30 caliber, so to my way of thinking that gives the edge to the .300; of course the idea of a 200+ gr .30 caliber bullet doesn't appeal to everyone, and if you don't shoot bullets heavier than 180 grs, the 7mm is arguably the better choice.
 
With modern bullet technology, you don't need to shoot heavy 180+bullets for most hunting situations. The latest solid copper bullets have changed all of that. The 7mm can now do all that the larger 30cals can for the most part and do it with a better BC. My 7mm with 140ttsx can do all that my buddies 300wm can with 180 lead core with less recoil to boot.
 
I have owned a number of 7mm Mags over the years. [including 6-7 STW's]
Also owned many big 30's.
On Game, there is not a lot of difference in their effectiveness.
Recoil differences are noticeable, however.
The Browning A-Bolt is anathema for me, so no contest there, Ruger wins.
The only 300 WSM I owned was a Vanguard, and it was very accurate.
However, I shot the 7mm Rem Mag in "hunter" competition at 1000 yards for several years, and won often enough to be led to believe there is no problem in the accuracy department.
The only 7s I own at present are a 700 "Classic" in 7x57, and a 700 Remington in 7mmUltraMag, but that could change at any time.
Boils down to what you personally like best.
Regards, Eagleye.
 
sureshot66 said:
With modern bullet technology, you don't need to shoot heavy 180+bullets for most hunting situations. The latest solid copper bullets have changed all of that. The 7mm can now do all that the larger 30cals can for the most part and do it with a better BC. My 7mm with 140ttsx can do all that my buddies 300wm can with 180 lead core with less recoil to boot.
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Never understood that argument when it is used this way. Can it do what your buddies .30 can do with a 180 gr. TTSX? Or perhaps a 200 grain TSX? Just in case, the answer is "No."

While it is true that the monolithic bullets can be an "improvement" in performance for the 7mm, it's also true for any .30 cal monolithic.
 
I think the point was in reference to the need to use heavy-for-caliber bullets, not so much about caliber differences.

A 175gr 7mm TSX will give all the penetration that you could possibly need, at least for anything on this side of the pond (as will a 200gr .308 TSX)...
 
Rral22, you can go ahead and shoot those 180 and 200 tsx bullets out of your 300 Win mag and I will be sticking with 140 tsx out of my 7mm mag. Personally, I don't see the need to be suffering from Raccoon eyes because I got my lights punched out by my scope only to find out I missed because I was scared of the gun and flinched badly. The original topic was to see how the 2 stacked up against each other and for the most part I don't see the clear advantage of one over the other in real world hunting situations.
 
sureshot66 said:
Rral22, you can go ahead and shoot those 180 and 200 tsx bullets out of your 300 Win mag and I will be sticking with 140 tsx out of my 7mm mag. Personally, I don't see the need to be suffering from Raccoon eyes because I got my lights punched out by my scope only to find out I missed because I was scared of the gun and flinched badly.
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Dont Be Nervous!
If Your Scared Say Your Scared CMON!!:rolleyes:
 
Amen. I had 3 - 100gr TSX bullets from a .25-06 penetrate stem-to-stern and exit on a 450-500lbs black bear a year and a half ago. The only way I've been able to catch TSX/TTSX bullets is to shoot game at hard quartering angles, or directly toward or away. They reliably give 30-40" of penetration, even when heavy bone is broken on the way. And that is a 100gr .257" bullet. The 140gr TSX/TTSX in 7mm has only proven to be more of a good thing. Ditto the 150gr .308, etc.
 
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