Need help with choosing a .308. The gun will be used as a push gun mainly but, will also sit on stand with it, so shooting range will vary from 0-300 yards. I want something that is going to be quick handling. I was thinking of a carbine, but, the only ones I routinely see are Remington 750's. Right now I am leaning towards a Browning BLR. What are your suggestions?
.308 help
- Thread starter Leif Cott
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Homesteader
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- In a Wallow West of Edmonton.
I would also vote 7600 on this one, but I don't know if Remington makes a 308 carbine. Perhaps the police series, or you could always cut one down, I'm thinking of doing that with my 7600 in 308. Reliably accurate, compact, and very quick.
manbearpig
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good luck at 300yds with most levers and pumps. i would recommend a bolt gun.
Ruger M77 MkII Frontier or Compact:
(note you dont have to mount a scout scope like i did, you can mount traditionally, and even remove the scout rail)
or the new Hawkeye Compacts (5.75lbs).
or the Hawkeye International (6.25lbs).
Ruger M77 MkII Frontier or Compact:
(note you dont have to mount a scout scope like i did, you can mount traditionally, and even remove the scout rail)
or the new Hawkeye Compacts (5.75lbs).
or the Hawkeye International (6.25lbs).
carl gustav
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While considering carbines for your purposes I'd take a Rem model 7 over a Rem 750. The short barrel bolt actions like the model 7 obviously won't give as fast a followup shot as the semi-auto but you'll like it better at the longer ranges.
shortaction
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Both the BLR's and Rem Pumps are plenty accurate for 300 yds shots. Most are at least 1.5 MOA guns. I find the hammer on the BLR hard to get to if you scope it which slows you done on those quick shots. You used to be able to get a hammer ext for the BLR but there are none available for the new style with the folding hammer. The detachable mag on the BLR is really nice.
The Rem pump in 308 is only available in 22" barrel but you can get the 30-06 synthetic in a 18.5" barrel but I would think the muzzle blast and jump would not be pleasant.
Another option is the Browning BAR Stalker (synthetic) in 308 comes with a 20" barrel and I have found the Browning semi's to be more reliable than the Remingtons. They have the same safety location as the Rem pumps and semi's which I always find quick to use.
If you want to go with a bolt then the Tikka T-3 Battue would be my first choice. (2 lug bolt with 70 degree lift, detachable mag, 20" barrel) 2nd choice would be the Browning x-bolt Micro Hunter and then the Rem Model 7.
If you are really familar with the Rem pumps then get one with the 22" barrel and if you find it a little too long get a gunsmith to shorten it for you.
The Rem pump in 308 is only available in 22" barrel but you can get the 30-06 synthetic in a 18.5" barrel but I would think the muzzle blast and jump would not be pleasant.
Another option is the Browning BAR Stalker (synthetic) in 308 comes with a 20" barrel and I have found the Browning semi's to be more reliable than the Remingtons. They have the same safety location as the Rem pumps and semi's which I always find quick to use.
If you want to go with a bolt then the Tikka T-3 Battue would be my first choice. (2 lug bolt with 70 degree lift, detachable mag, 20" barrel) 2nd choice would be the Browning x-bolt Micro Hunter and then the Rem Model 7.
If you are really familar with the Rem pumps then get one with the 22" barrel and if you find it a little too long get a gunsmith to shorten it for you.
manbearpig
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its no more difficult than any other gun - only difference is there are a few less inches of barrel.
with that setup above, im getting MOA groups with factory ammo. and i just learned that i was measuring my groups wrong - from outer edge to edge. *facepalm*
the Remington Mohawks like Charlie38 recommended can be found very cheap and arent a good value if you can stand the plastic parts.
or pick up a Marlin XS7 for $350, take it to your gunsmith and have the barrel cut and crowned at 19". if the smith does a good job on the crown, accuracy will likely improve due to that and the shorter, stiffer barrel.
I never even considered the Ruger's, don't know why....I really like the look of yours manbearpig! Do the rugers have detachable magazines? As I don't really want a top load or hinged floor plate, I find them a pain in the butt to load and unload all day, as with my style of hunting it's in and out of the vehicle drive from bush to bush to push. I guess the reason I lean towards the BLR as I have 3 buddies that have one and they all love them, I have also noticed on the EE forum, you never see them for sale and when one does come for sale it's gone right away.
Never really been a fan of the 760/7600's find you really have to ratchet that pump in order to cycle it properly.
Do like the idea of the micro-bolt guns, I do reload so they maybe my best choice......
Never really been a fan of the 760/7600's find you really have to ratchet that pump in order to cycle it properly.
Do like the idea of the micro-bolt guns, I do reload so they maybe my best choice......
Homesteader
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- In a Wallow West of Edmonton.
No luck required, just a steady hand, and knowledge of your firearm. For what it's worth I generally prefer my bolt guns for hunting, probably because that is what I learned with, but make no mistake the BLR, and 7600 are just as deadly at range as their bolt action cousins.
I think most of the badmouthing of how pumps are inaccurate come from people who have never spent any real time shooting them any amount.
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My Steyr Scout in .308 would fit the bill.
- extremely light
- fast handling
- accurate
- built in bi-pod
- fantastic trigger
- magazine fed
You can mount the scope traditionally if you like.
- extremely light
- fast handling
- accurate
- built in bi-pod
- fantastic trigger
- magazine fed
You can mount the scope traditionally if you like.
hugh manuell
Regular
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- Central Ontario
I've said it before on here, but I'm a big fan of the BAR with synthetic stock and short barrel. Very reliable, accurate, quick-handling. What more can you ask???
Hugh
Hugh
manbearpig
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no, hinged floorplate.
are you aware that you can load a hinged floorplate by just dumping the rounds in and closing it? before i realized you could do this (i used to load them one by one from the top
), i hated hinged floorplates too. now i prefer them.also, the Rugers have an excellent latch design (flush with the triggerguard) that will not release accidentally.
If you can find one, a Savage 99C lever in 308. Mine gives excellent MOA and I have done nothing to it. FYI the C has a DM that is really quite well made and very easy to work with. Handles like a Winnie 94 but packs a punch. As accurate as my Ruger 77mkII 30-06. Tang safety too.
