308 Norma Mag or 300 H&H Mag??

You're gonna have problems with that 1-12 twist and bullets over 180 gns, unless you can drive them up in the 3200 fps bracket...........have you considered a 300 Wby? Were it not for the 1-12 twist I'd have to add a vote for the H&H offering, as it just reeks of nostalgic history and given no magazine restriction there is absolutely no down side. H&H brass is out there, not real common but certainly obtainable, and if not there is Nosler and R-P 300 Wby brass that becomes H&H with one pass through the die. Norma is easily made from 300 WM and of course there is gobs of that available. My vote is still the H&H though, just stick to 165-180 grners and you should be fine.
 
SuperCub said:
From a practical standpoint, the 300WinMag is the best of the bunch.
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Perhaps that lack of practicality is part of the draw for me, or at least it would seem to be so by some of my calibre choices. A number of them seem to be off of the;) 'beaten path'.
- 219 Donaldson Wasp
- 7x61 Sharps & Hart
- 308 Norma Magnum
- 348 Winchester
- 358 Norma Magnum
- '.366 Wagner':)
- 375 Chatfield Taylor;)
 
Johnn Peterson said:
Perhaps that lack of practicality is part of the draw for me, or at least it would seem to be so by some of my calibre choices. A number of them seem to be off of the;) 'beaten path'.
- 219 Donaldson Wasp
- 7x61 Sharps & Hart
- 308 Norma Magnum
- 348 Winchester
- 358 Norma Magnum
- '.366 Wagner':)
- 375 Chatfield Taylor;)
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I agree with what you say. :)
 
Johnn Peterson said:
Perhaps that lack of practicality is part of the draw for me, or at least it would seem to be so by some of my calibre choices. A number of them seem to be off of the;) 'beaten path'.
- 219 Donaldson Wasp
- 7x61 Sharps & Hart
- 308 Norma Magnum
- 348 Winchester
- 358 Norma Magnum
- '.366 Wagner':)
- 375 Chatfield Taylor;)
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Yes there is a draw to something in nice walnut, with a oddball chambering. Personally i am working on a project 308 NM, was stupid and sold a nice one a few years ago. Broke my own rule and am now way over my limit of two reloader only rifles. As much as its great to have a "my rifle" that very few would have, there is also a appeal for a synthetic stocked buy your ammo at Walmart kinda gun.

Ouch....did i say that....talk about the 300 WSM and synthetic chevrolet rifles in a fuddy...cadilac sorta thread....Dons flame suit.
 
nowarningshot said:
Yes there is a draw to something in nice walnut, with a oddball chambering. Personally i am working on a project 308 NM, was stupid and sold a nice one a few years ago. Broke my own rule and am now way over my limit of two reloader only rifles. As much as its great to have a "my rifle" that very few would have, there is also a appeal for a synthetic stocked buy your ammo at Walmart kinda gun.

Ouch....did i say that....talk about the 300 WSM and synthetic chevrolet rifles in a fuddy...cadilac sorta thread....Dons flame suit.
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Stainless, while not my #1 choice, I do have a couple stainless and wood, and admittedly have one :redface: stainless and 'tupperware' example. While I can appreciate those in the field weather resistance qualities, they're not for me. Blued steel and nicely figured wood are my #1 pick.
 
Limiting myself to the two choices in your original question, I'd point out that the NM is definitely the "better" cartridge, if you think you need a "fast" .300. I think that the .300WinMag is fast enough for anything that I want to do with it, so I don't really have any interest in the Norma cartridge...but the H&H has style, panache, charm, chutzpah, class and coolness, all in one cartridge. It's the obvious choice. If I didn't have my Ruger #1 in .300H&H (26-inch barrel...drool...), I'd be jealous of your B78...

On the other hand, the Norma round is the sort of thing that Gatehouse would choose...'nuff said. :)
 
c-fbmi said:
You're gonna have problems with that 1-12 twist and bullets over 180 gns, unless you can drive them up in the 3200 fps bracket........
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Now I hadn’t thought about that....I will run a twist test to verify what I found on the net. I like the 200's for their SD/BC and the longer necks on the 308NM/300H&H vs the shorter neck on the 300WM. Technically....the longer neck is better for accuracy. Can any animal tell the difference??...not likely. Can I tell the difference...again not likely. I'm leaning towards the H&H now, mostly because of the requirement for a magnum action vs no issues with a single shot.
 
c-fbmi said:
You're gonna have problems with that 1-12 twist and bullets over 180 gns, unless you can drive them up in the 3200 fps bracket...........have you considered a 300 Wby? Were it not for the 1-12 twist I'd have to add a vote for the H&H offering, as it just reeks of nostalgic history and given no magazine restriction there is absolutely no down side. H&H brass is out there, not real common but certainly obtainable, and if not there is Nosler and R-P 300 Wby brass that becomes H&H with one pass through the die. Norma is easily made from 300 WM and of course there is gobs of that available. My vote is still the H&H though, just stick to 165-180 grners and you should be fine.
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In my post, #10, my Schultz has a 1-10" twist rate and shows an accuracy fondness for 200gr Sierra BT's.
 
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Here are my two, 300 H&H is the top rifle, 308 Norma on the bottom..
 
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