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Quote: T/64 "Why is that young girl wearing a full leather outfit to shoot her pink rifle?"
She is shooting in a type of competition called fullbore Target Rifle. The rifle must be shot with iron sights, be held off the ground, cannot weigh more than 13 pounds and must be 223 or 308.
To help isolate heart beat pulses from the rifle a padded coat may be worn. You can also see that she is using a sling to complete a trinagle support for her left arm.
Target rifle is shot at 300 to 1000 yards in canada and USA. In England it is shot back to 1200 yards.
I once won a 1000 yard target Rifle event using a 223 shooting Sierra 80's, but most shooters use the 308. 223 is a great caliber for kids and newbies. Cheap, accurate and no recoil.
She is shooting in a type of competition called fullbore Target Rifle. The rifle must be shot with iron sights, be held off the ground, cannot weigh more than 13 pounds and must be 223 or 308.
To help isolate heart beat pulses from the rifle a padded coat may be worn. You can also see that she is using a sling to complete a trinagle support for her left arm.
Target rifle is shot at 300 to 1000 yards in canada and USA. In England it is shot back to 1200 yards.
I once won a 1000 yard target Rifle event using a 223 shooting Sierra 80's, but most shooters use the 308. 223 is a great caliber for kids and newbies. Cheap, accurate and no recoil.
That picture is my daughter 5 years ago. She was 14 at the time Jim took the picture. The rifle is in fact a 788 in .223 with a 1:9 Krieger barrel, fitted into an old Remington 40X smallbore stock. The paint job was her idea.
manbearpig
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the bolt isnt gritty, its loose when fully open - and all Mauser actions are like this.
a Mauser style bolt will still function reliably in conditions where your 'glass smooth' Tikka turns into a 7lb boat anchor.
the bolt isnt gritty, its loose when fully open - and all Mauser actions are like this.
a Mauser style bolt will still function reliably in conditions where your 'glass smooth' Tikka turns into a 7lb boat anchor.
Your still on your Tikka Rant
Your really should stop dropping your hunting rifle in the mud ....
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eltigra306
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I had a 7600 in 308 and I was not very happy with it. I know the scope was not very good, and it did bring down a beautiful 10 point buck for me but when I first got it I had alot of trouble getting it sighted in. Then when I did I tried some 275-300 yard shots and it was terrible no matter how solid of a rest I had it would not get any where near the target. So I don't know if these are short range guns or not but I was not at all impressed and I sold it. My 1943 British 303 out shot it with out any trouble with the original iron sights.
So that is my 2 cents worth, I shot a 270 7600 before I bought mine and I felt that it was a better rifle than mine turned out to be.
So I don't know if these are short range guns or not but I was not at all impressed and I sold it. My 1943 British 303 out shot it with out any trouble with the original iron sights.So that is my 2 cents worth, I shot a 270 7600 before I bought mine and I felt that it was a better rifle than mine turned out to be.
...definitely agree with Manbearpig. Ruger m77's are the best deal going in your price range IMHO. Both my M-77's are under 1.5" with factory ammo, point,carry and balance well and the fit and finish is surprisingly decent for a rifle in this price range.
As for the "gritty-bolt comment" lets put that in context. My Rugers are admittedly not the smoothest of the bolt actions I own, but they feed and eject with "authority", and are the most positive feeding and extracting in my collection.
Both my m-77's are my most hunted with firearms, and should fit your bill nicely.
Good luck,
Mad Mikey
Sounds to me like your scope was the problem.I had a 7600 in 308 and I was not very happy with it. I know the scope was not very good, and it did bring down a beautiful 10 point buck for me but when I first got it I had alot of trouble getting it sighted in. Then when I did I tried some 275-300 yard shots and it was terrible no matter how solid of a rest I had it would not get any where near the target.
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manbearpig
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Your still on your Tikka Rant
you brought it up with your 'gritty bolt' comments
a 'glass smooth bolt' is only important to people who sit in their living room fondling their rifles
The only reason I brought that comment was to respond to yours below in reference to Reliability:
= all steel construction, non-rotating mauser claw extractor, controlled round feed, fixed ejector, hinged floorplate, etc.
ie: all that stuff a Tikka lacks
And controlled round feeding is only important to those who are trying to feed a round upside down with a charging grizzly while lying on your back.... I will take a glass smooth bolt anytime for range work, deer, elk or moose hunting, and for varmints over a CRF.... I had 6 of them..... 3 Mausers and 2 Winchesters and 1 Kimber.
= all steel construction, non-rotating mauser claw extractor, controlled round feed, fixed ejector, hinged floorplate, etc.
ie: all that stuff a Tikka lacks
And controlled round feeding is only important to those who are trying to feed a round upside down with a charging grizzly while lying on your back.... I will take a glass smooth bolt anytime for range work, deer, elk or moose hunting, and for varmints over a CRF.... I had 6 of them..... 3 Mausers and 2 Winchesters and 1 Kimber.
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manbearpig
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there are more benefits to CRF than being reliable when upside-down and being charged by a grizzly - although that surely cant hurt, can it?
its actually quite hard to make a push-feed Remington NOT chamber a round while jostling the rifle or holding it at an angle or even upside down.. however this is not the main disadvantage of a push feed, this is:
if you short-stroke a push feed you can end up with a partially chambered round that is not ejected since the extractor never had a chance to snap over the rim of the cartridge. if you try to chamber another round youll end up with a jam (or worse i suppose, on the miniscule chance that the tip of the second round happens to slam into the primer of the first). yes, its a noob-assed thing to do but in a panicked situation (or even typical 'buck fever') many otherwise experienced people may actually short-stroke a bolt-action... which could cost them their game or their life.
this is why almost all dangerous game rifles that arent doubles are CRFs.
also, since its a fixed ejector your cases will be damaged less: there is no spring-loaded ejector forcing the case diagonally against the chamber on unloading, and you can vary the ejection of spent cases from 2 benches down to softly rolling them into your hand based on how forcefully you work the bolt.
and id rather have a bigass non-rotating claw extractor. the likelihood of even a Remington extractor failing is very low, but still - a Mauser style extractor is just somehow comforting to have. just one failure is enough to seriously ruin your day.
while i totally agree with you that the benefits of CRF are unlikely to make much of a difference in the average hunter's lifetime, seeing as both rifles cost roughly the same id rather have a CRF rifle and an overengineered extractor on the off chance that a situation might arise where they do.
manbearpig
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and i forgot to add that the main reason many modern rifles DONT have a Mauser style CRF action is because push-feed is significantly cheaper to manufacture, and the vast majority of hunters that fire 4-5 shots a year to sight in and fill their tag will never need nor care about the benefits of CRF.
